Google Killing Off Buzz and Code Search
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Re: Google Killing Off Buzz and Code Search
#62What is the best alternative to Google Code Search?
Re: Google Killing Off Buzz and Code Search
#63Earlier quoted context omitted.
1) I am not whining as an entrepreneur that I did not start the company in 2005: I did other things that I am quite proud of, and which frankly have probably been more interesting and successful than having worked on that code searching mechanism. Instead, I am whining as a user of Google Code search that we have just lost six years of progress on searching source code. Having a company that starts today in this spac…
I see your point. It's a good one, and I sort of agree with you, but I also think it's more complicated than that. For example, it's hard to say whether the six years of code search we got from google was better or worse than what a sustainable startup could have provided. And if was better, how do you measure that against its sudden disappearance until there's some viable replacement (if there will ever be one). It'…
Google doesn't seem to try to make things sustainably, and in this case didn't even try their bread-and-butter business model (ads), possibly because to them the result would have been "chump change", whereas to a smaller company it might have been "enough to man a few bright people" (which I'd argue is enough to have something great occur).
I'll add, though, that these services Google (or the VCs whose money is being used in an unsustained burn) is providing "for free" are coming from somewhere: from other projects, if nothing else. In the end, everything has a cost, "there is no free lunch", yadda yadda.
Regardless, point taken that as a user who only cares about that one specific feature (which I admit my arguments skewed towards), it might be the situation where a large company burning money into a pit for six years may actually cause more money to be thrown at a small problem over the lifetime of that problem than a sustainable market, and therefore we might be glad in some twisted way about that. ;P
I still feel, however, that from a market-level, projects like this are bad for everyone, in the same extrinsic way that we look at people using seemingly cheap materials like styrofoam and partially-hydrogenated oils to build empires that eventually have seriously bad costs; put simply, I look at Google and VC-backed startups in the same way people look at companies polluting the atmosphere and contributing to global warming. (and yes: this is now pretty abstract, but I feel this conversation started getting to a position where the abstract-ness was fun.)
Re: Google Killing Off Buzz and Code Search
#64"Organizing Worlds Information"
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"Organizing People in to Circles"
Indeed exciting times!
Re: Google Killing Off Buzz and Code Search
#65I'm very disappointed to see google code search go. It was very useful (for me at least, don't read this as a comment on the whole committee / process) in finishing the new C++ standard, and answering the question "Well, did anyone ever really write code like X?" (the answer was usually yes). Buzz makes a lot of sense, although I imagine some users will be disappointed it couldn't be more 'cleanly' imported into goog…
Too bad Google can't do the opposite of acquiring a company for things like this. Google Code was incredibly useful, it'll be sad to see it go.
The problem here is that Google Code Search wasn't independently profitable, so it wouldn't make sense to sustain it as an independent company. (I presume it was created to build goodwill for Google as a whole among coders.) As to whether any of the related assets are valuable to, say, another company who thinks they can make code search profitable, I don't know. But if Google can sell those assets to such a company, it will.
Re: Google Killing Off Buzz and Code Search
#66What is the best alternative to Google Code Search?
Recently I have found out that google search "function/class/variable/anything else filetype:extension" works even better than google code search.
Re: Google Killing Off Buzz and Code Search
#67What I want is a "curl | grep" for the web. Just something that searches the entire page, including etc. I can do without fancy semantics.
But Google tries to be smart even on quoted queries. And that annoys me deeply.
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#68I may be biased, but: I feel like Google's "geek cred" is slipping. It feels like PMs (and their "monetization strategies") are gaining control over at El Goog, shutting down anything that isn't "revenue positive". You can't measure geek cred. You can't measure the second-order effect of services like Code Search. So the slow slide of Google turning into "just another tech company" starts...
And so as a publicly owned, regulated, billion dollar corporation, it no longer make sense to commit unmeasured resources to support unmeasurable benefits.
Re: Google Killing Off Buzz and Code Search
#69Re: Google Killing Off Buzz and Code Search
#70I'm surprised about the Code Search news. That seems to be squarely within Google's mission.
How do you sell ads on a bunch of code results? That's the only logical explanation I see for shutting this down. I find a globally-searchable database of code useful enough to want to rewrite this myself. I won't get all of the Internet, but if I can get Github and GNU / Apache / etc., it will be enough.