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Re: The bottom is dropping out of Netflix

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Post by saltminer » Fri, Apr 22, 2022, 3:35 PM UTC

cm2012 wrote: post #97

f0e4c2f7 wrote: post #40

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I don't watch stuff unless it has ended and is reccomended by someone who watches shows I generally enjoy. Here's my pitch for the golden age of TV, though most of these are from a few years back. Most on HBO. The Wire The Sopranos Generation Kill The Deuce Treme Show me a Hero Luck The Expanse Sillicon Valley (not actually that funny but like a documentary of our field) Mad Men

I'd add Arcane on Netflix, which is also on the top 20 shows of all time on IMBD.

And if you like Arcane, I'd recommend She-Ra and the Princesses of Power (also on Netflix).

Re: The bottom is dropping out of Netflix

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Post by cercatrova » Fri, Apr 22, 2022, 3:36 PM UTC

gruez wrote: post #172

cercatrova wrote: post #101

It's easier just to pirate than keep up with all these streaming services. - You get the benefit of high quality (true 4k, not stream compressed "4k") and no buffering. - Plex, Radarr, Sonarr automatically downloads and categorizes your content for you, you can just sit back and enjoy your content. - Edit: Plex et al are not the *only* ways to download content, not sure why some replies are thinking so. I too can typ…

>You get the benefit of high quality (true 4k, not stream compressed "4k") Where do you think pirates get their source content from? Sure if it's a movie with a blu-ray release there's a 4k high bitrate source, but if it's a netflix original the "stream compressed 4k" is the only version available.

Yes but a physical file does not buffer once fully downloaded, and I can upscale via mpv filters or madVR if needed.

Re: The bottom is dropping out of Netflix

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Post by colinmhayes » Fri, Apr 22, 2022, 3:36 PM UTC

colechristensen wrote: post #161

simongr3dal wrote: post #139

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I don't really get why Netflix is so sour about password sharing, it's literally part of the subscription pricing, they tell you how many concurrent streams you're allowed to have.

At this point 80% of the reason I still have a Netflix subscription is to share my password with my parents.

Same, rarely watch myself, but they got pissed when I cancelled it.

Re: The bottom is dropping out of Netflix

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Post by mkl95 » Fri, Apr 22, 2022, 3:36 PM UTC

I unsubbed for two major reasons:

1. Netflix is boring

2. Their recommendation algorithms didn't solve 1.

The root cause of it all is their odd focus on expensive originals over third party content. Their catalogue is just not deep enough if you remove all the subpar content. Before using Netflix I engaged in massive piracy for over ten years, and I'm considering it again - this time in smaller amounts, because I don't have that much free time anymore.

Re: The bottom is dropping out of Netflix

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Post by lotsofpulp » Fri, Apr 22, 2022, 3:37 PM UTC

rekoil wrote: post #108

lotsofpulp wrote: post #45

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> you can easily be paying for 3 streaming services for ~$60 You can easily buy and cancel what you want when you want, so that is the not cable-like development. I do not see why people should fee they are owed all the content in the world for $x. The important part is the creator/curator/seller of the content and the purchaser of the content are not held hostage by a monopoly/monopsony distributor.

If people really start doing that en-masse, then the next thing the streaming services will implement is that cancellation means you lose access immediately.

Then I will set a reminder on my phone to cancel before next renewal. Or if too troublesome, I will just pay for the specific episode or show or movie.

Or if the price is too high, I will find something better to do with my time. Same as every other entertainment option in life.

Re: The bottom is dropping out of Netflix

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Post by vincnetas » Fri, Apr 22, 2022, 3:37 PM UTC

CabSauce wrote: post #181

halfnormalform wrote: post #168

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More like I snuck onto a ride without buying a ticket. Or snuck into a theater without buying a ticket. Wouldn't you call that stealing? Edit: Call it digital trespass then. I don't really care what you call it. There are obviously fixed costs to creating content. Just because there aren't incremental costs incurred from piracy, doesn't mean there isn't harm. Lost revenue is harm.

Yes, it's not stealing.

Re: The bottom is dropping out of Netflix

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Post by tailspin2019 » Fri, Apr 22, 2022, 3:37 PM UTC

ilrwbwrkhv wrote: post #92

Honestly for me I just do not know all the content Netflix has because the browsing is so bad. I wish instead of pushing shows to me best on algorithms, it would just let me browse categories and recent additions etc in a simpler way. Maybe categorised by year.

Agreed. I have never used such a non-deterministic UI. Every time I load the app I have to hunt around to find the show I last watched and continue it. It feels like it’s in a different place every single time.

And actually trying to browse the catalog is painful.

I like some of their content but I really hate the Netflix apps. (Not to mention weird subtitle issues and play position sync issues).

The one thing I will say though is I cannot remember the last time I saw a single bit of buffering. Everything starts playing immediately, every time. The actual reliability of the streaming itself is superb.

Re: The bottom is dropping out of Netflix

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Post by the_biot » Fri, Apr 22, 2022, 3:37 PM UTC

ilrwbwrkhv wrote: post #92

Honestly for me I just do not know all the content Netflix has because the browsing is so bad. I wish instead of pushing shows to me best on algorithms, it would just let me browse categories and recent additions etc in a simpler way. Maybe categorised by year.

Algorithms? Netflix hasn't done actual recommendation algorithms since the DVD days. These days it just relentlessly pushes its own third-rate content to viewers, presumably because it's cheaper than licensed content.

Re: The bottom is dropping out of Netflix

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Post by Shacklz » Fri, Apr 22, 2022, 3:37 PM UTC

CabSauce wrote: post #160

cercatrova wrote: post #101

It's easier just to pirate than keep up with all these streaming services. - You get the benefit of high quality (true 4k, not stream compressed "4k") and no buffering. - Plex, Radarr, Sonarr automatically downloads and categorizes your content for you, you can just sit back and enjoy your content. - Edit: Plex et al are not the *only* ways to download content, not sure why some replies are thinking so. I too can typ…

Sure. It's also stealing. And doesn't provide any money for future shows that you might enjoy. Don't get me wrong, I've done it for some things that I wanted to watch, but wasn't willing to pay for. But let's not pretend that everyone torrenting is a reasonable solution.

> And doesn't provide any money for future shows that you might enjoy.

Which means that dinosaur-industry would finally have to arrive in the 21st century. People are very much willing to pay for things they enjoy - see Twitch Subscribers and Patreons for examples. Paying for shitty catalogues where the parts that you actually enjoy are distributed across multiple services just isn't cutting it.

Good riddance to all those copyright-attorneys and other parasites leeching off of the entertainment industry.

Re: The bottom is dropping out of Netflix

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Post by muh_gradle » Fri, Apr 22, 2022, 3:37 PM UTC

OskarS wrote: post #60

The thing I find interesting with Netflix is how much they spend on content and what a terrible rate of return it has. Look at Apple TV+, they're absolutely TINY compared to Netflix in both library size and money spent on new production, but they have arguably more hits than Netflix. Like, since when has any drama on Netflix been as buzzy or as good as Severance on Apple TV+? When was the last time they had a comedy…

I was really skeptical of subscribing to Apple TV (an additional streaming service really?) but after watching some of the Apple content I'm a convert. Ted Lasso, Severance, Pachinko, and many more.

There's just so much cheap, quickly produced, B-level content that it dilutes the brand.