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Re: The bottom is dropping out of Netflix

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Post by CabSauce »

halfnormalform wrote: post #168
CabSauce wrote: post #160

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Sure. It's also stealing. And doesn't provide any money for future shows that you might enjoy. Don't get me wrong, I've done it for some things that I wanted to watch, but wasn't willing to pay for. But let's not pretend that everyone torrenting is a reasonable solution.

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More like I snuck onto a ride without buying a ticket. Or snuck into a theater without buying a ticket. Wouldn't you call that stealing?

Edit: Call it digital trespass then. I don't really care what you call it. There are obviously fixed costs to creating content. Just because there aren't incremental costs incurred from piracy, doesn't mean there isn't harm. Lost revenue is harm.

Re: The bottom is dropping out of Netflix

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Post by [deleted] »

rekoil wrote: post #108
lotsofpulp wrote: post #45

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> you can easily be paying for 3 streaming services for ~$60 You can easily buy and cancel what you want when you want, so that is the not cable-like development. I do not see why people should fee they are owed all the content in the world for $x. The important part is the creator/curator/seller of the content and the purchaser of the content are not held hostage by a monopoly/monopsony distributor.

If people really start doing that en-masse, then the next thing the streaming services will implement is that cancellation means you lose access immediately.

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Re: The bottom is dropping out of Netflix

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Post by eatbitseveryday »

nradov wrote: post #126
ilrwbwrkhv wrote: post #92

Honestly for me I just do not know all the content Netflix has because the browsing is so bad. I wish instead of pushing shows to me best on algorithms, it would just let me browse categories and recent additions etc in a simpler way. Maybe categorised by year.

Back when Netflix had DVDs the recommendation algorithm worked pretty well, at least for me. It's gotten gradually worse over the years. Or perhaps they no longer have much good content, so no recommendation algorithm would work well? Either way I guess it's time to cancel my subscription.

They still do rent discs. I am a subscriber thereof.

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Re: The bottom is dropping out of Netflix

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Post by lbrito »

One thing that's missing is a single-ticket subscription that encompasses many streaming services. SV types are smart and can probably squeeze a profit while still keeping attractive pricing.

Fragmentation is becoming annoying and unsustainable. I see some streamers as better content producers than tech companies, so they will probably shift towards that over time. Also all these services are upkeeping parallel streaming tech. All this will be consolidated sooner or later.

Re: The bottom is dropping out of Netflix

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Post by dj_mc_merlin »

CabSauce wrote: post #160
cercatrova wrote: post #101

It's easier just to pirate than keep up with all these streaming services. - You get the benefit of high quality (true 4k, not stream compressed "4k") and no buffering. - Plex, Radarr, Sonarr automatically downloads and categorizes your content for you, you can just sit back and enjoy your content. - Edit: Plex et al are not the *only* ways to download content, not sure why some replies are thinking so. I too can typ…

Sure. It's also stealing. And doesn't provide any money for future shows that you might enjoy. Don't get me wrong, I've done it for some things that I wanted to watch, but wasn't willing to pay for. But let's not pretend that everyone torrenting is a reasonable solution.

The purpose is to be a signal to the distributor: "fix your payment model or we're not paying". I pirated for a long time. When Netflix became a thing, I stopped pirating (since it was easier). Now I pirate again. If a new company came along with a good model, or the industry as a whole decided this streaming debacle is stupid, I would definitely stop pirating and give my money to someone. Until then, why would I pay money for a worse service than what I can get for free?

Re: The bottom is dropping out of Netflix

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Post by redhedgehog12 »

halfnormalform wrote: post #168
CabSauce wrote: post #160

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Sure. It's also stealing. And doesn't provide any money for future shows that you might enjoy. Don't get me wrong, I've done it for some things that I wanted to watch, but wasn't willing to pay for. But let's not pretend that everyone torrenting is a reasonable solution.

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Not sure if you're being sarcastic... If not, you're just being facetious. Just because a thing is digital and therefore copiable, doesn't mean there's no reason to ever pay for it.

Re: The bottom is dropping out of Netflix

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Post by 0xcafecafe »

roody15 wrote: post #137
pojzon wrote: post #125

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I can assume Netflix does not have this kind of browsing simply due to amount of content they have. Offering of Netflix is extremely poor if you crop out all the duplicate shows popping on your feed. Ive decided to drop Netflix simply because: - new interesting shows are popping up so rarely, there is no point to pay the monthly sub - there is too much political agenda sold even in children shows (Kids really dont ne…

"there is too much political agenda sold even in children shows" Yes sadly this has become much more prominent in the last couple of years. It has blatant political propaganda inserted into all of their original content that is clearly forced and hurts the quality of the programming.

Can you please provide examples of said propaganda in NFLX programming? Genuinely curious.

Re: The bottom is dropping out of Netflix

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Post by bageljr »

sylware wrote: post #130
cercatrova wrote: post #101

It's easier just to pirate than keep up with all these streaming services. - You get the benefit of high quality (true 4k, not stream compressed "4k") and no buffering. - Plex, Radarr, Sonarr automatically downloads and categorizes your content for you, you can just sit back and enjoy your content. - Edit: Plex et al are not the *only* ways to download content, not sure why some replies are thinking so. I too can typ…

... and you are not forced to use those grotesquely and absurdely massive and complex google(blink/geeko) or apple(webkit) based browsers (and their SDKs), in other words, open source drm software which is "obfuscated" via complexity and size: you can use the media player you like, and in my case my shmol media player I wrote (using ffmpeg). This issue is actually critical as it is not really piracy as it narrows dow…

Gecko isn't google its Mozilla, all you have to do is change the search engine. But the rest is all correct

Re: The bottom is dropping out of Netflix

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Post by marcosdumay »

jimmar wrote: post #102

Lots of people are complaining about terrible content on Netflix. Years ago, Netflix was praised for its "long tail"--basically it could have content that appealed to people with diverse interests. But it seems like people now see the long tail as useless junk and would prefer a shorter tail with more concentrated quality.

> But it seems like people now see the long tail as useless junk

Hum... It's not that. It's just that it's impossible to access the long tail of Netflix content.

Re: The bottom is dropping out of Netflix

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Post by starik36 »

nerdjon wrote: post #149

I finally canceled Netflix as many of the shows I loved were canceled (largely the expensive to produce ones). Sense8, Travelers, Altered Carbon, basically there expensive science fiction. Sure nailed it is fun but I won't miss it. The only one that I will truly miss is Big Mouth... but there are alternatives. Apple TV+ is quickly becoming my science fiction go to and they seem to be going more than HBO route with a…

The problem is that Apple TV+ doesn't have that many shows that I might want to watch. Once you binge through a couple, it's all slim pickings.
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