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Ask HN: Anyone else is tired of all the corporate bs?
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Re: Ask HN: Anyone else is tired of all the corporate bs?
#82You work for money, labor in exchange for cash. There is no perfect company and you have to take in the good with the bad. Working with people you get along with goes a long way.
It is an essential requirement of working with other humans that you put up with some of their bullshit. Getting to do work you enjoy and getting paid good money for it is amazing. Every company is there to turn a profit, that will never change. Personally having things to look forward to outside of work and trying to see bullshit from the perspective of the bullshitters helps a lot.
Re: Ask HN: Anyone else is tired of all the corporate bs?
#83Earlier quoted context omitted.
> The worst part is the high degree of censorship. Everyone is so sensitive now that it's impossible to speak openly What would you say if you weren't censored?
Example: Pronouns. I’ve been subjected to Slack bots that chastise us for using gendered pronouns. Like, someone says “could you guys take a look at this?” And the bot calls the person out publicly, saying we don’t use that pronoun around here.
Does your email system do the same thing?
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#84You always have a choice to reframe things. Look at it as an opportunity to learn something new every day. Learn to improve your communication skills. Learn to lead the meetings. There are endless opportunities if you look at the flip side of your situation.
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#85Earlier quoted context omitted.
> AI managers who are optimizing transparent objectives All AIs that I've seen so far just optimize the reproduction of existing biases and/or serve to obfuscate policy decisions by ensuring that no person is left to blame. Are you stating a dream there, or did I miss a development towards practical AI systems that make decisions more transparent?
NNs dont need to be transparent as long as the objectives are transparent
And the training data right? How can you prevent exactly what the person you replied to is talking about. Situations where we ingrain the horrible nature of humankind because that's what we're training the AI on. Say you were building a credit score classifier NN. It's going to "learn" that African Americans have lower credit scores. Mostly because it's going to be trained on historic data, which is based on human input, and humans are inherently racist in some fashion or another. And societal constructs have prevented African Americans from economic advancement since... ever.
You can't just have "transparent objectives" and let AI take the wheel.
Re: Ask HN: Anyone else is tired of all the corporate bs?
#86I went to a smaller company (The worst part is that perception and behaviors change, since the requesting party thinks "this should be a 2 hour change" and it takes 2+ weeks to due to process-- the fastest way to inhibit changes are making them riskier due to more effort/buy in from disparate parties, so you get more stagnation. Yea, rigid frameworks will help flush out loafers, but couldn't the same be done with a software type solution or even competent management?
Re: Ask HN: Anyone else is tired of all the corporate bs?
#87Earlier quoted context omitted.
NNs dont need to be transparent as long as the objectives are transparent
And the training data right? How can you prevent exactly what the person you replied to is talking about. Situations where we ingrain the horrible nature of humankind because that's what we're training the AI on. Say you were building a credit score classifier NN. It's going to "learn" that African Americans have lower credit scores. Mostly because it's going to be trained on historic data, which is based on human in…
What you have now with organic matter AI is less transparent
Re: Ask HN: Anyone else is tired of all the corporate bs?
#88I don't want to sound like the bad guy here who defends corporate, but I kind of feel like OP and a lot of comments are missing the point. Which is: large business organizations are complex social structures. You can't have a complex social structure without a lot of communication going on. Of course there are zounds of different ways to communicate with each other and if you (and your colleagues) feel like certain m…
>However they are not party to some decision loops and are often on the receiving end of architecture and design decisions. Most of them start to complain about that sooner or later, so I ask them to start participating in more meetings...
And if they decided to attend these meetings are they still expected to maintain the same "velocity/story points/etc."? Because if so then they will likely have to work outside of "office hours" to actually get the work done. Possibly why they decline and stop complaining... They realize they'll just get handed a bigger bag of BS.
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#89I went to a smaller company ( The worst part is that perception and behaviors change, since the requesting party thinks "this should be a 2 hour change" and it takes 2+ weeks to due to process-- the fastest way to inhibit changes are making them riskier due to more effort/buy in from disparate parties, so you get more stagnation. Yea, rigid frameworks will help flush out loafers, but couldn't the same be done with a…
I'm sad to report even around 100 you start running into this. Think Instagram, keep it under 12. Start your own if you have to.
Re: Ask HN: Anyone else is tired of all the corporate bs?
#90Most days feel like a constant struggle between having to do my work and people getting in the way. After 2 years I still don't know what's the functionality of my PO, basically he just pass the task from the top to poorly written tickets that constantly miss information or does not take into account or business logic, this causes a back and forth between me redefining the tickets and having to explain to him, causin…
I still dont know whats the role of my PO neither. He basically understand everything wrong lol