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Neubrutalism is taking over the web?

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Re: Neubrutalism is taking over the web?

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Post by pid-1 »

mark_and_sweep wrote: post #18

> People simply get bored with how their apps and websites look after six to seven years. They need a change. Is there any research that supports this claim? If I use an app for 6 years, why would I suddenly need a change? I'm still ocassionally using a 10 y/o version of Photoshop. In fact, I'm very happy that it does not change. I wouldn't want to spend time on re-learning the UI. The same is true for many apps that…

The correct assertion would be: as time passes, the probability developes wanting to change UI to get bonuses increases monotonically.

Re: Neubrutalism is taking over the web?

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Post by pid-1 »

mark_and_sweep wrote: post #18

> People simply get bored with how their apps and websites look after six to seven years. They need a change. Is there any research that supports this claim? If I use an app for 6 years, why would I suddenly need a change? I'm still ocassionally using a 10 y/o version of Photoshop. In fact, I'm very happy that it does not change. I wouldn't want to spend time on re-learning the UI. The same is true for many apps that…

The correct assertion would be: each year the probability developers wanting to change UI to get bonuses increases monotonically.

Re: Neubrutalism is taking over the web?

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Post by ghusto »

> "People simply get bored with how their apps and websites look after six to seven years. They need a change"

Real world objects rarely change design because of the costs involved. When they do, the change needs to justify that cost. For example, I'm not going to change the buttons on my microwave because I'm "bored" with them. The costs of changing software design is far less impractical and expensive, and therefore isn't driven by the same high level of justification.

I strongly suspect then, there are two reasons for these design changes we see every couple of years in software:

The first is easy, and most of us probably already agree; designers gotta design. They have to justify their salary _somehow_.

The second is more philosophical. The west — and especially the U.S.A. — looks to alleviate existential crisis with distractions. Shiny new toys keeps us from having to face uncomfortable truths about the nature of reality (if you're not religious).

Re: Neubrutalism is taking over the web?

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Post by mihaic »

Modern software development is now caught in an influx of fresh developers/designers, which leads to "best practices" and libraries appealing to less experienced and less competent workers, which in turn change the processes everyone uses.

In design that means designers converging on some simple to reproduce esthetic like this, which becomes familiar to users, and then ironically becomes popular because of its familiarity. That is, until a few years pass, and a new fad has to surface.

I'm predicting Art-Deco in web design within 10 years at this pace.

Re: Neubrutalism is taking over the web?

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Post by toomanybeersies »

mark_and_sweep wrote: post #18

> People simply get bored with how their apps and websites look after six to seven years. They need a change. Is there any research that supports this claim? If I use an app for 6 years, why would I suddenly need a change? I'm still ocassionally using a 10 y/o version of Photoshop. In fact, I'm very happy that it does not change. I wouldn't want to spend time on re-learning the UI. The same is true for many apps that…

HN has had the same design for 15 years now.

Re: Neubrutalism is taking over the web?

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Post by akoncius »

yawnxyz wrote: post #48

> Brutalism is a 1950’s architectural trend that was abandoning all decorations, and creating brutally simple buildings made from concrete. They often weren’t even painted to emphasize their brutal nature. So big, brutal blocks of concrete. The word "brut" came from French "Béton brut" which means "raw concrete" — has nothing with how "brutal" we perceive it to be. There's lots of architecture articles covering this…

in that case, why it is called 'brutalism' instead of 'brutism' ? I'm not implying you are wrong, but probably it's the reason of confusion:

* brutal - brutalism

* brut - brutism

Re: Neubrutalism is taking over the web?

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Post by r_hoods_ghost »

Gumroad's design is an utter monstrosity that intentionally pulls attention away from the products people are selling to the chrome of the marketplace. It's the Gumroad designers saying look at us we're special while giving a big fuck you to their customers who now have to fight for attention with the UI of the web store they're selling on. There's also nothing brutalist about this style - it's a lift from the zine inspired style that was popular in late 90s design magazines. Harrumph!

Re: Neubrutalism is taking over the web?

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Post by xdennis »

duckmysick wrote: post #52
krageon wrote: post #40

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You're apparently sarcastic, but fashion really does look like nonsense to me. I'm not sure what point you're making.

Which parts are nonsense?

The part where things are changed for no good reason.

Re: Neubrutalism is taking over the web?

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Post by samatman »

ghusto wrote: post #83

> "People simply get bored with how their apps and websites look after six to seven years. They need a change" Real world objects rarely change design because of the costs involved. When they do, the change needs to justify that cost. For example, I'm not going to change the buttons on my microwave because I'm "bored" with them. The costs of changing software design is far less impractical and expensive, and therefor…

> Real world objects rarely change design because of the costs involved

What an astonishing claim.

Fashion is too easy, you could maybe wiggle away from clothes not being "objects in the real world" although I assure you the Emperor aside they are exactly that.

How about cars?

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