I've never understood how links can fall victim to copyright. A link is just a signpost instructing your browser where to go next. There is no copying involved, anywhere. Subjugating links with copyright law is morphing reality into fantasy.
DuckDuckGo Removes Pirate Sites and YouTube-DL from Its Search Results
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#302It's amazing how much collateral damage is caused by our horrible copyright laws. Mostly just so the MPA/RIAA can protect their roles as gatekeepers of what we're allowed to see and hear. They can put enormous pressure on even the wealthiest and most powerful companies to act as copyright police on their behalf. Even Google is afraid of them. ISPs are forced to spend huge amounts of time and money working for them. N…
I mean even Google did not go this far though. So it sounds like DDG is doing more than the strict minimum required by law.
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#303Earlier quoted context omitted.
Film funding is not a zero sum game. There are lots of other places to secure funding. I've seen about 20 new indie films already this year. The rest of your comment is unrelated and somewhat unhinged, and appears to be going off into a general complaint about advertising, it has nothing to do with copyright.
> I've seen about 20 new indie films already this year. Good for you! Now go ask the other 99% of the population what they watched this year? > The rest of your comment (...) has nothing to do with copyright. It has to do with concentration of power, of which copyright (and any kind of "intellectual property") is one of the favorite instruments from big corporations. I also used to fall for this "people are free to c…
But that's not true, if you didn't have copyright the biggest one would just copy everything and nobody could do anything about it. With copyright you have a way to sue them for ripping you off.
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>It'd take a whistleblower for anyone to ever find out. No it won't. If you have a hypothesis you can just test it out. Go submit some fake personal data and then see if it shows up anywhere else. This trick is as old as using a honeypot name or email address to test if a service signs you up for junk mail.
> Go submit some fake personal data and then see if it shows up anywhere else. this is not a valid test, for a whole lot of reasons. especially not in terms of internet search engines. One reason for this, is that the specific things you search aren't what's actually valuable. Companies use that data to make guesses about you. It's those guesses, not your specific search terms, that are used to profile you. So why no…
>this is not a valid test, for a whole lot of reasons. especially not in terms of internet search engines.
Then come up with a better test. I'm sure you can think of something that answers those questions to a reasonable level of confidence and can be targeted at any data broker. This is literally what a lot of independent auditing actually is. The reality is, you can't go and work on the inside at every data broker and that defeats the purpose of an independent audit anyways. So you have to come up with something else.
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They sure sound like a Microsoft shell company. Because nobody that's fully conscious will ever deliberately use Bing they had to get creative and rebrand it with the usual privacy and safety buzzword slogans that VPNs have perfected in the last years.
The most obvious problem with this conspiracy theory is that Bing became available in 2009, but DuckDuckGo was founded one year earlier.
Bing is (a) sound of having an idea.
Perhaps that idea was DDG.
bing.
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#306Earlier quoted context omitted.
> I've seen about 20 new indie films already this year. Good for you! Now go ask the other 99% of the population what they watched this year? > The rest of your comment (...) has nothing to do with copyright. It has to do with concentration of power, of which copyright (and any kind of "intellectual property") is one of the favorite instruments from big corporations. I also used to fall for this "people are free to c…
But that's not true, if you didn't have copyright the biggest one would just copy everything and nobody could do anything about it. With copyright you have a way to sue them for ripping you off.
Or maybe copyright and "intellectual property" is precisely what leads to existing a "bigger one" in the first place?
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Do you need me to go around looking for all the declarations from different big name musicians saying how they only really make money on touring, not on the record selling? How many examples of companies and people working on free software do you need? Or authors that started out writing as a side-gig? It's simply not true that copyright reform would lead to death of creative works. Most likely the opposite: we would…
I'm a musician and I write software, you don't need to preach to me about this. Record sales are indeed dead but there is no chance they'll come back at all without copyright or something like it. Also that doesn't invalidate copyright anyway. Copyright is also an important part of performance, for example the laws about what happens and what royalties you get if somebody else covers your song and profits from it. Fr…
> You can advocate for copyright reform all you want but you misunderstand who you have to please when you do that. It's all those lobbying groups.
Or we can simply acknowledge that the whole system is rigged and continue to ignore the laws and get as many people to understand that piracy is the only reasonably moral alternative?
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> Writers, researchers, artists, architects, musicians, composers, filmmakers, actors, podcasters, even a lot of software developers Plenty of those same people are fed up with copyright law in the US too. There are people releasing their works under more permissive licenses, publishing directly to torrent sites, etc. The fact is that most of the time copyright enforcement doesn't do a damn thing for the creators any…
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> Rule of thumb, never start a sentence with "There are people", it's very vague and almost meaningless. Always refer to specific groups of people.
This from the person who claims the supporters of our current copyright system are by necessity "Writers, researchers, artists, architects, musicians, composers, filmmakers, actors, podcasters, even a lot of software developers"
Not a terribly specific list there either, but examples of folks fed up with system abound and I'm prepared to offer some to get you started:
musicians: https://www.nbcnews.com/id/wbna7287785 https://www.huffpost.com/entry/lady-gaga-jack-white-norah-jo... https://news.slashdot.org/story/09/05/16/0257212/danger-mous... see also : every artist that defends the use of samples in their works
Writers: http://jakonrath.blogspot.com/2010/05/piracy-again.html https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cory_Doctorow https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eric_S._Raymond https://www.brandonsanderson.com/warbreaker-rights-explanati...
filmmakers: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nina_Paley Luke Thompson (Decay 2012) Michela Ledwidge (sanctuary 2005)
Programmers: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eric_Eldred https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hal_Abelson See also: huge swaths of the FOSS movement
Podcasters: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/open-minds-from-creati...
There are few people who would say we should abolish copyright entirely, I wouldn't myself, but our current system is broken and creative people in all areas are starting to see that and find workarounds and hope for changes.
> My point is that basically all the lobbying that I've seen representing those groups has been in favor of the copyright system
Those lobbyists aren't representing the artists they are representing the corporations who own the copyrights to the artists' work. Yes, the vast majority of works are still published traditionally under the typical licensees, but the system is designed to keep people doing so under the threat of lawsuits. Having the MPA or the RIAA and their teams of lawyers at your back can give you freedom to create in an environment where it's increasingly risky because of those same organizations and people are just starting to become wise to that.
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If Duck really collects user data, the moment this is found out, they’re dead, so for that reason alone, they probably don’t do it. The alternative is that they’re betting everything on nobody ever finding out which sounds crazy.
A certain philosopher named Occam would suggest that the simplest explanation for nobody finding out so far is that it is three-letter agencies who might be the ultimate funders and data buyers.
"For nothing ought to be posited without a reason given, unless it is self-evident (literally, known through itself) or known by experience or proved by the authority of Sacred Scripture."
So I guess you're going with interpreting the scripture as "render unto Caesar that [data] which belongs to Caesar"?
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The "people will starve without copyright" rhetoric is also quite off-putting.
That's not a rhetoric and it's also not even close to what I said or what I actually think. Please don't make things up, it's doing a disservice to yourself.
What you are implying is that people only create something if they can "demand payment" for it, no?