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I'm tired of Google's business products

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Re: I'm tired of Google's business products

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Post by probably_wrong »

> Is this a problem of my own making (...)? Or is this a feeling that others get?

I can understand why you "had" to rely on Google Ads. But in my opinion choosing Google Workspace/Drive falls unfortunately under "problem of your own making". None of the problems you describe is new nor unknown, and there are plenty of products that are just as good.

> I hope Google gets some real competition soon because it feels like they are falling off.

I think that that's the issue: maybe not in ads, but there is competition for everything else.

Re: I'm tired of Google's business products

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Post by PaulHoule »

mountainriver wrote: post #6
PaulHoule wrote: post #2

Google docs is a joke.

Huh?

If somebody was trying to make Microsoft Office look good they would invent Google Docs.

I hate to admit it but I am a boss with Powerpoint, I can get almost any kind of business illustration out of my head and into Powerpoint with the greatest of ease.

Giving me Google Docs to attempt the same is like giving Superman Kryptonite.

I think some people don't know how bad Google Docs is compared to Microsoft Word because they've got this idea that using Word is like putting your hand in a toilet so they never try it. If they did they would be singing ‘Google Docs is a Joke’ (I opened Google Docs a long time ago, don’t you know how late it reacts…)

Re: I'm tired of Google's business products

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Post by stefanve »

I worked a lot with both MS online offerings and google's. My own money go's to MS when it comes to documents etc . It is better than the offering of google especially if you need a bit more the the basics. Support is also better.

I don't thing that google office suit is bad just that MS is better

That being said I'm contamplating to stop with MS as I have less needs for a good office suit and just use what apple offers

Re: I'm tired of Google's business products

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Post by johndfsgdgdfg »

jqpabc123 wrote: post #3

Google is an advertising company. Their productivity apps exist for one reason --- privacy invasion/data collection --- in support of their advertising objectives. Using Google apps for anything other than advertising is like going to a medical doctor for a toothache. You might receive something that temporarily eases the pain but the root problem remains largely unsolved.

Thank you for saying that. We will have to band together and fight against Google. I think we should have a separate category on HN to expose Google's evil doings.

Re: I'm tired of Google's business products

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Post by taylodl »

* > I've been trying to start a business lately, and as many people do, have chosen to rely on Google's suite of products.*

Just a reminder, most businesses fail - so doing what many people do is not necessarily the best thing to do.

Having said that, it's rather foolish to have your business depend on Google. They have repeatedly demonstrated they're not good business partners and the main thrust of their business isn't in providing products and services for businesses. They don't support their services, they'll drop them at a moment's notice without any regard to the impacts to your business, and there's no way to get ahold of a human being when things inevitably go sour. Why do you want to partner with someone like that?

I bash on the technical merits of Windows all day long but one thing Microsoft has done well over its nearly 50 year history is serving the needs of business. It's in their DNA. Office 365 is a very capable, and supported, platform. Nice thing is you can run it on a Mac too!

Re: I'm tired of Google's business products

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Post by Cordivae »

I hate Google Workspace so much.

Not because of the product, which seems fine. But because 10 years ago I signed up for google apps. It was marketed as a way to have a vanity gmail domain. Free forever up to 10 users.

I thought it was cool, was a huge Google fan at the time, and created a custom domain for myself and another one for my grandparents. Now, 10 years later they are holding my online persona hostage in a shameless cash grab to try and make Workspaces more profitable.

All I ever wanted was my own Gmail domain. I have zero use for the business functionality. Fuck you google.

I'm a VP of Cloud Platform for a rather large enterprise and quite frankly this is why we won't even consider Google Cloud. Broken trust. Broken promises.

Re: I'm tired of Google's business products

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Post by ghaff »

PaulHoule wrote: post #12
mountainriver wrote: post #6

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Huh?

If somebody was trying to make Microsoft Office look good they would invent Google Docs. I hate to admit it but I am a boss with Powerpoint, I can get almost any kind of business illustration out of my head and into Powerpoint with the greatest of ease. Giving me Google Docs to attempt the same is like giving Superman Kryptonite. I think some people don't know how bad Google Docs is compared to Microsoft Word because…

I used Microsoft Office for years. Leaving aside collaborative editing which has been a game-changer for me (and, of course, you can get from Microsoft as well now), Google products do everything* I need and most of the features in Office just get in the way.

*I'm not a power-spreadsheet user these days and every now and then I run into some very specific thing I can do in Word that I can't do in Docs--or it's easier to use word for compatibility with someone else--but for the most part I much prefer using Google day-to-day.

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