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The coin is the proof that the energy was used. You're effectively trading how much you value energy.

No, that's incorrect. The price of the bitcoin has no relationship to the amount of energy burned mining it; if this were true then Satoshi's wallet would be worthless.

I think the price of Bitcoin does have a relationship to energy consumption. It’s obvious it’s on large time scales. And unless one has a very cheap energy source it will always be cheaper to buy from the market. So it’s a good in the ball park metric, the core issue to transfer value to old coins is that older coins grow exponentially more difficult to undo — so the fact that a few kilowatts could have mined many thousand coins in the early days does not decrease those utxo security and this value. There is an additive value of every block, and while head block at difficulty D virtually upgrades all the blocks before it to D, as you would need at least D+1 to undo just head-1, we build bigger defense walls every 10 minutes on average.

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> I need to send 1 [REDACTED UNIT OF CRYPTOCURRENCY] between North and South Korea I find this fascinating. How can you send any crypto between one country and the other? In reality, everyone who is using crypto is doing the transaction in every country where a validator/node is running. There is no concept of "sending BTC between Mexico and the USA". There may be a concept of someone paying USD money to somebody els…

Where ever the private keys reside is where the crypto resides. It's pretty simple.

Cool, what jurisdiction is it in when it is a copy of a key in 140 countries? All? None? First to find? It’s anything but simple when it comes to this space.

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According to the original complaint, a few months after being interviewed by an FBI agent on returning from his trip to North Korea, Griffith had the following conversation over text messages: Griffith: I need to send 1 [REDACTED UNIT OF CRYPTOCURRENCY] between North and South Korea. Other Guy: "Isn't that in violations of sanctions?" Griffith: It is. A few day later, also in text messages to someone else: Someone: W…

How far down the "flew 8,000 miles to get there, climbed over the barbed wire fence, licked both his thumbs, and pressed them against the shiny parts labeled 'DANGER! 25,000 VOLTS!'..." rabbit-hole-of-stupid should one have to go, before it's 100% okay for me to stop caring whether or not his sentence was just?

He was imprisoned for teaching. You have to construct quite a mental abstraction for that to be a legitimate criminal offense.

Re: US sentences crypto expert to 5 years after North Korea blockchain presentation

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Yeah, a victimless crime. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Human_trafficking_in_North_Kor... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Human_rights_in_North_Korea https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kwalliso https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/North_Korea_and_weapons_of_mas...

interesting. let's see the CCP's human rights record

Sure, these'll get you started

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Human_rights_in_China

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Uyghur_genocide

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Organ_harvesting_from_Falun_Go...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_jails

Re: US sentences crypto expert to 5 years after North Korea blockchain presentation

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How to make a supervillain, step 1 Jokes aside, after 5 years, I'm not sure how he will not hold a serious grudge (if he didn't have one already) against the USA.

I think he pretty clearly already didn't agree with the USA since he ignored the fact that they told him he couldn't go and violated sanctions. I'm pretty sure they aren't worried about him "holding a grudge".

I think it would be smart to keep an eye on people who hate the USA, especially when they demonstrate capability and intent.

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> as a means of settling disputes As a means of forcing someone to unwillingly settle a dispute in your favor that is. I have no sympathy for North Korea, but sanctions are not an alternative to war. Sanctions are an alternative to bullets.

> As a means of forcing someone to unwillingly settle a dispute in your favor that is. what kind of strange take it is? What do you think war is ?

Sanctions are economic warfare.

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To say look North Korea is evil they don't feed women and kids misses the fact that this is a policy we did for whatever justifible reason. Kids are not eating and dying because of choices we made.

Kids are not eating well because NK leadership spends all the country’s money on themselves and the military in order for them to stay in power. If your neighbour beats his children and constantly threatens to shoot your house up, you are not morally obligated to spend money at their restaurant.

If you prevent the next door neighbour from bringing in food because you have a fued with them you can't turn around and say look at those kids not eating. It's because you live like kings.

They spend money on military not to supress the local population, they do it to protect themselves against you.

You are morally responsible for your choices including preventing kids from eating.

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It sucks but the world seems to punish people who are honest (like this guy) and help people who lie (like everyone who did what this guy did and lied about it). In the same vein, police get away with brutal abuse because they know what lies to tell to justify it ("I felt afraid for my life", etc). But the police would not get away with it if they told the truth, ("They showed me disrespect and I knew I wasn't going…

It similarly sucks that our justice system punishes the clumsy criminals and lets the really skillfully sneaky ones go unpunished. Nobody has yet faced charges for robbing the Isabella Stewart Gardner Museum.

That's why I find the fact that real murder and attempted murder have different sentences to be a grave injustice. Criminals should not receive a discount on their sentence because they happened to be a bad shot or because the good trauma surgeon was on duty that night.

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A judge is responsible for decisions around sentencing and prision conditions. The choices they make have a big impact on whether prison will be successful in reforming a person. Sending 16 year olds to adult prison or decisions around solitary or conditions (no visitors) or type of prison can have a huge impact.

Lol, what. You really read to read my message again and if your takeaway remains the same then good luck fixing your brain.

Why would a prisoner having a bad time in jail be an acceptable outcome?

Prisons are not there to punish. Do you believe they are?

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Fidel Castro, Kim jong Il, and Vladimir Putin.

Those are the only three instances where sanctions were used "ever in human history"?

Most recent attempts thus most applicable to today’s world. Yes.
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