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U+237C ⍼ Right Angle with Downwards Zigzag Arrow

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Re: U+237C ⍼ Right Angle with Downwards Zigzag Arrow

#251

It is a proofreaders mark with languages with long words. The L-shape is "Split the word here" and same with arrow-squiggle on top is "Do it at the next syllable or not at all". For example words "YÖ-KLUBI" and "YÖK-LUBI" have different meanings. Source: I have seen Finnish proofreaders marks.

This sounds plausible but I can't search Finnish enough to find examples.

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#252

(Edited to upload the image to imgur and avoid spammy advertisements). Here I'll date myself: I remember this as "diode with a gate". Back when we did circuit diagrams with stencils, you had the diode stencil which looks like a triangle with a line on top, and then with the electrical stencils you had "decorations". The intention was to put down the original symbol on the paper, move the decorations stencil over top…

That first link is a redirect spiral through multiple interstitial ads. Enjoyed the rest of the comment though!

Re: U+237C ⍼ Right Angle with Downwards Zigzag Arrow

#253

It is a proofreaders mark with languages with long words. The L-shape is "Split the word here" and same with arrow-squiggle on top is "Do it at the next syllable or not at all". For example words "YÖ-KLUBI" and "YÖK-LUBI" have different meanings. Source: I have seen Finnish proofreaders marks.

This sounds plausible but I can't search Finnish enough to find examples.

You can find German marks "Korrekturlesen Zeichen". The L-shape is described in DIN 16511, but cannot find the opposite.

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#254

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This sounds plausible but I can't search Finnish enough to find examples.

You can find German marks "Korrekturlesen Zeichen". The L-shape is described in DIN 16511, but cannot find the opposite.

Here's DIN 16511 https://www2.informatik.hu-berlin.de/sv/lehre/korrekturzeich... for anyone interested. Perhaps someone in Finland could dig further? It might be a bit strange to have proofreader marks for proofreading marks, but maybe something slipped in.

"oikolukumerkit" found an image with more than just the DIN referenced marks, but not much more.

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#255

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Not really, in your example theres no way any1 appears and even if he does, then your friends protect ur stuff Meanwhile internet aint remote village

Point is it used to be

Do you know of any tiny remote internet villages left? There has to be a few

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#256

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In a linked post Barbara Beeton says not. She collated these characters while working for the AMS so she should know. https://tex.stackexchange.com/questions/640588/what-is-%E2%8...

that's even more wild! thank you for sharing / emphasizing that curious twist

I work at AMS currently, this is so interesting!

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#257

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I've heard a lot of people pronounce it like that, but I'm pretty sure that's not correct. It's clearly the English word "wares"[1] with the S replaced with a Z, similar to "hackz" and "cheatz", which were also common in that era. I think the "wah-rez" pronunciation came from people seeing the l33tspeak and not recognizing the original word behind it. [1] A synonym for "goods" or "products". See https://www.merriam-w…

It's not a synonym for "goods", because only one type of thing was ever "wares"; software. It's just for dividing up the sections of your piracy BBS into, like "filez" (files, multi-kilobyte textfiles full of instructions on how to make bombs etc), "imagez", "warez", etc. Anyway, by 1990, in the piracy circles I distantly associated with, it was quite common to pronounce it like "juarez". Sort of semi-ironically, lik…

> It's not a synonym for "goods", because only one type of thing was ever "wares"; software. It's just for dividing up the sections of your piracy BBS into, like "filez" (files, multi-kilobyte textfiles full of instructions on how to make bombs etc), "imagez", "warez", etc.

Citation needed there.

I have always assumed it came from fleamarkets where people selling pirated VHS films and knock-off Rolexes would be described as “selling their wares”. Changing the s to a z was an obvious step in 90s internet culture.

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#258

These unicode characters feel like they were given to us from an alien species or something. How did it we end up with so many characters of unknown origin? I had no idea what it meant or was used for, thus assigned it a “descriptive name” when collating the symbols for the STIX project. (I still have no idea, nor can supply an example of the symbol in use.) […] it is the case that ISO 9573-13 existed long before eit…

Something similar exists in JIS called 幽霊文字 (ghost characters), which refers to kanji of mysterious origin with no real-world usage that somehow made its way into the JIS character set. After some investigation, most of them turns out to be mistranscriptions of kanji from old historical materials.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/JIS_X_0208#Kanji_from_unknown_...

Due to this thorough investigation, the committee was able to pare down the number of kanji for which the source cannot be confidently explained to twelve, shown on the adjacent table. Of these, it is conjectured that several glyphs came about due to copying errors. In particular, 妛 was probably created when printers tried to create 𡚴 by cutting and pasting 山 and 女 together. A shadow from that process was misinterpreted as a line, resulting in 妛 (a picture of this can be found in the Jōyō kanji jiten).

Re: U+237C ⍼ Right Angle with Downwards Zigzag Arrow

#259

(Edited to upload the image to imgur and avoid spammy advertisements). Here I'll date myself: I remember this as "diode with a gate". Back when we did circuit diagrams with stencils, you had the diode stencil which looks like a triangle with a line on top, and then with the electrical stencils you had "decorations". The intention was to put down the original symbol on the paper, move the decorations stencil over top…

That first link is a redirect spiral through multiple interstitial ads. Enjoyed the rest of the comment though!

Thanks for the heads up - I've edited the post to a copy of the image I uploaded to imgur.
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