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U+237C ⍼ Right Angle with Downwards Zigzag Arrow

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Re: U+237C ⍼ Right Angle with Downwards Zigzag Arrow

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Post by grahameb »

mbeex wrote: post #63
vletal wrote: post #42

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I do not get it. Did you have to shut it down? Does not make sense to complain that someone uploaded stuff to a public unprotected writable storage. Wouldn't securing it with a set of credentials suffice?

I think, you don't get the full grasp of "early, friendly internet". Very few people do today. In my bubble - programming, for example, young people can't even imagine that there were times when you could focus on _things_ instead of writing layers of security code around them.

It makes me sad to think of all those simple little services we used to run on *NIX machines, like `finger` and `whois`. You'd never want to disclose that information now, but at the time it was quite nice to be able to see if a friend or colleague was around with a simple network query.

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Post by neutronicus »

jumpkick wrote: post #59
jorvi wrote: post #55

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Sometimes people should be able to do nice things without it getting abused, no? In The Netherlands, in the nicer neighborhoods we have something called a ‘buurtbieb’ aka a ‘neighborhood libraries’, which is a weatherproof cabinet where people can put surplus books that other people in the neighborhood can borrow. Of course you could take all the books or use the cabinet to store candy, but why would you?

We have these throughout many neighborhoods in my city in central Florida, USA. We’re a college town so I just assumed it was somehow connected to that. Neat that it’s an international thing!

Here in Baltimore, MD, too, although the focus is mostly on kids books

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Post by firstcommentyo »

kortex wrote: post #104

Wake up, first thing that pops into my head, "I should check HN" (normally it's imgur, yeah bad habits). Number one post is the Linking Sigil. Neat. If you know, you know. As for how a chaos magick symbol concocted in the 21st century ended up in a 1994 font spec, clearly discordians used the power of fnord to retcon it.

Im sorry to be a party pooper but though Linking Sigil is also mentioned in the article but that's not what the article is refering/asking about.

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Post by thaumasiotes »

lifthrasiir wrote: post #45
cygx wrote: post #36

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Unicode had to define the bidirectional rendering Why? They could have left this for a higher layer to handle.

Unicode defines characters, their semantics and (very flexible) guidelines for rendering them. Unlike, say, bold, italic or super/subscripts, bidirectionality is an intrinsic property of those characters and can't be easily refactored.

> Unicode defines characters, their semantics

Unicode specifically states that it doesn't define the semantics of characters. That would seriously interfere with its purpose of defining characters.

There are some notable exceptions, and they are acknowledged to be mistakes.

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Post by alex3305 »

ysavir wrote: post #81
hardware2win wrote: post #67

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I think you make it sound as if that was good, but it was straight naive or irresponsible

The GP is saying "I miss the days where I could easily exploit people" and the response was "I miss the days where we respected each other enough to not exploit each other". It wasn't naive or irresponsible, but reflective of a time with more trust, cooperation, and good intentions.

Reminds me of a few years ago, when I accidentally exposed my Domoticz install to the internet without authentication. I've had missed something in my Nginx config with X-Forwarded-For headers. After about a week or something apparently a foreign visitor came by my install and decided to have some good fun. Turning my lights on/off at random times. It took me about 3 days to realize what have happened, but in the mean time he didn't just destroy my install and only mess with me. Which was really sweet, because nuking the system would be far easier than opening the webpage every night.

That was a good and fun security lesson though and now I always check outside security with a mobile hotspot.

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Post by hardware2win »

FabHK wrote: post #83
hardware2win wrote: post #67

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I think you make it sound as if that was good, but it was straight naive or irresponsible

"There are villages on the countryside that are safe and friendly, everyone knows each other, people don't even lock their door." - "Man, those idiots are naive and irresponsible."

1 I didnt call any1 "idiot"

2 it s not like other people cant go to those places, thus it is kinda irresponsible

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Post by hardware2win »

adrusi wrote: post #85
hardware2win wrote: post #67

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I think you make it sound as if that was good, but it was straight naive or irresponsible

That's like saying it's naive and irresponsible to gooutside without locking your front door when you live in a tiny remote village with 40 other people you've known for your whole life.

Not really, in your example theres no way any1 appears and even if he does, then your friends protect ur stuff

Meanwhile internet aint remote village

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Post by bfuller »

technothrasher wrote: post #38
slowmotiony wrote: post #14

I remember back in the day we used to find publicly exposed Windows FTP servers, create new folders using some messed up unicode characters and upload pirated games and movies there to share with each other. The only way to open those directories was to specifically type the exact path in unicode, simply double clicking on the folder in filezilla or windows explorer resulted in a error. Sometimes the admins themselve…

I remember the days of people beginning to abuse ftp sites, all us admins shutting down our writable ftp upload folders, and thinking, "this is why we can't have nice things." It was the beginning of the end of the early, friendly internet.

i was 13 when my public upload folder started getting messed with, sad day

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Post by wanderer_ »

technothrasher wrote: post #38
slowmotiony wrote: post #14

I remember back in the day we used to find publicly exposed Windows FTP servers, create new folders using some messed up unicode characters and upload pirated games and movies there to share with each other. The only way to open those directories was to specifically type the exact path in unicode, simply double clicking on the folder in filezilla or windows explorer resulted in a error. Sometimes the admins themselve…

I remember the days of people beginning to abuse ftp sites, all us admins shutting down our writable ftp upload folders, and thinking, "this is why we can't have nice things." It was the beginning of the end of the early, friendly internet.

You guys should read The Cuckoo's Egg by Clifford Stoll. It's a classic.
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