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> In the gun community the NRA is generally seen has having failed gun owners. NRA accomplished some wicked and absurd goals (one might not think it possible if it hadn't already happened) and I think by proxy accomplished a huge one through Justice Scalia which significantly, drastically and fundamentally changed the meaning of the 2nd Amendment from a selfless right to stand guard against tyranny to an intensely an…
> NRA accomplished some wicked and absurd goals Perhaps by the standards of those outside the gun community. For our agenda they've been a failure. The modest policy successes, by our measure, have been obtained in-spite of them. I don't expect you to agree with our agenda, but don't forget that we define our agenda. All the NRA did was water it down.
NRA's agenda is guns for everyone, and to change the Founders' intent to make the 2nd include a right self-defense that it neither ever contained nor needs to contain. That's watered down, you say. If that's watered down, wtf.
It has been proven over and over, just about every week, that more guns means more gun deaths, and that is all it means, iow, it does not mean anyone is safer. In fact, owning a gun doubles the chance of death of anyone living in the gun owners' household. Also, it is more likely a gun owner will injure or kill themselves, or someone they love, than they will ever successfully defend themselves against crime. Also, no one needs the 2nd Amendment for self-defense. We all already have the right of self-defense, so it would be awesome if we didn't let pet agendas unnecessarily monkey with the Constitution.
The Founders never intended the citizenry to be armed, unless organized as a well-regulated militia. It's fine to have your own agenda and opinions about guns, certainly, but let's not ever try to wrap that in patriotism, nor label it American, because the Founders had far far different ideas about this than the gun community. And if guns for everyone and warping the 2nd to include self-defense doesn't please the gun community, then no one need ever find out what will. Secure your weapon, and just sit there and be dissatisfied, and try not to hurt yourself or kill anything.