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Former Xinjiang prisoner arrives in U.S. as key witness to abuses

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Re: Former Xinjiang prisoner arrives in U.S. as key witness to abuses

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Since when does it take a pro-Western stance to condemn a war, terrible atrocities and genocides? What, non-Westerners lack a moral compass or compassion?

>Since when does it take a pro-Western stance to condemn a war It takes a pro-Western stance to condemn Russia for invading Ukraine under false pretense but celebrate America invading Iraq under false pretenses (a war in which literally hundreds of thousands of Iraqi civilians were killed: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Casualties_of_the_Iraq_War ).

Who is celebrating the Iraq war?

Re: Former Xinjiang prisoner arrives in U.S. as key witness to abuses

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I'd be okay if the US simply stopped invading some countries or toppling random governments every 5 years. Many people of the rest of the world wish for the responsible US politicians to be put away. I hope the American perpetrators find similar ends. Its an awful kind of mockery to see the US displaying themselves as the hand of justice in the Xinjiang situation. I wish countries like the Netherlands or Switzerland…

> I'd be okay if the US simply stopped invading some countries or toppling random governments every 5 years. Me too, not sure what that has to do with anything. > Many people of the rest of the world wish for the responsible US politicians to be put away. I hope the American perpetrators find similar ends. ok? Not sure where that fits in though. > Its an awful kind of mockery to see the US displaying themselves as th…

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Re: Former Xinjiang prisoner arrives in U.S. as key witness to abuses

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Holly molly, the whatsaboutism in these comments.

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"Let's dismiss allegations of systematic ethnic cleansing because a US helicopter killed a group of armed civilians in a warzone in 2007"

Re: Former Xinjiang prisoner arrives in U.S. as key witness to abuses

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> I'd be okay if the US simply stopped invading some countries or toppling random governments every 5 years. Me too, not sure what that has to do with anything. > Many people of the rest of the world wish for the responsible US politicians to be put away. I hope the American perpetrators find similar ends. ok? Not sure where that fits in though. > Its an awful kind of mockery to see the US displaying themselves as th…

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Ooof, if you're German, then, by your own logic, you don't really have room to speak on the atrocities of other countries... no?

Re: Former Xinjiang prisoner arrives in U.S. as key witness to abuses

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For all the faults of the western world, we will have to serve as the preserver of the record of all these abuses in countries that don't allow anything but the official version to spread. It should be noted that without the international news of the Uyghur repression there wouldn't even be an official version from the Chinese government, they were silent about it until it became big. We can't do a lot for the Uyghur…

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You read or heard about those things from reports originating in western media (yes, you might have read it somewhere else, but even the People's Daily is reliant on western media for the stories it makes about how the west is bad). The free dissemination of information sets us apart from the likes of China and Russia. We shouldn't self-censor news from China because Biden is an asshole, we can report about both. If the situation really was symmetrical, there wouldn't be any discussion about US abuses, because it would be outlawed.

Re: Former Xinjiang prisoner arrives in U.S. as key witness to abuses

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Many details are not that difficult to cross-check. Similar stories (typically involving mixed part-Uyghur families torn apart by Chinese government) are abound on social media. BBC, others reported extensively on other victims as well as relevant findings from satellite imagery etc. From my understanding this is less about uncovering some categorically new information, but more about someone able to testify in court…

We had satellite images of WMDs in Iraq, right? What happened?

Re: Former Xinjiang prisoner arrives in U.S. as key witness to abuses

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Holly molly, the whatsaboutism in these comments.

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> Are we really going to trial Russian soldiers for war crimes when the US soldiers that committed "collateral murder" [1] are still free and will never face any charges?

If you're not going to, nobody's going to. You're our (Russian and Ukrainian) only hope of justice at this point.

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