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FBI Didn't Knock Down a Suspect's Door Because 'It Was an Affluent Neighborhood'

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Re: FBI Didn't Knock Down a Suspect's Door Because 'It Was an Affluent Neighborhood'

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Post by TaylorAlexander »

MegaButts wrote: post #13
alephnan wrote: post #11

Well if the suspect was wrongly accused, they'd have to reimburse the damages. Does the FBI have a budget for such things? Does it involve extra paperwork if it passes a certain threshold? Is the issue here profiling of the demographic or the risk ( in terms of cost ).

> Well if the suspect was wrongly accused, they'd have to reimburse the damages. Do they? I'm honestly asking, but I would be surprised if most of the time the police (or any 3 letter agency) reimbursed victims for their negligence.

Nobody ever brought Breonna Taylor back to life for her wrongful shooting.

Re: FBI Didn't Knock Down a Suspect's Door Because 'It Was an Affluent Neighborhood'

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Post by DoctorOW »

mangoTangoBango wrote: post #26

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> We should start over, get rid of those parasites, move the capital to the center of the USA like Lebanon, KS out of the swamp.

The physical location of the capitol has been irrelevant since airplanes, cell phones, and the internet. The swamp is a metaphor, not a physical place.

Re: FBI Didn't Knock Down a Suspect's Door Because 'It Was an Affluent Neighborhood'

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Post by _Nat_ »

> "I can tell you that is not protocol. The problem is there are two justice systems: 1 for poor people and minorities and 1 for rich people and generally white people. You see it when you are one of the few black agents. Everyone is not equal."

Was "Tarek Abou-Khatwa" not a minority?

[The surname "Abou" appears to be most commonly associated with either Niger or Egypt](https://forebears.io/surnames/abou ), while ["Khatwa" appears to be most commonly associated with Egypt](https://forebears.io/surnames/khatwa ).

Re: FBI Didn't Knock Down a Suspect's Door Because 'It Was an Affluent Neighborhood'

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Post by SequoiaHope »

drekipus wrote: post #54
arcticbull wrote: post #42

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Yes yes we know the glorious Soviet society that was the pinnacle of fair and just. The opposite of end-stage capitalism isn't Stalinism. It's very American to view the opposite of "capitalism" as the Soviet Union, but the truth is there's a whole spectrum in between socialism and capitalism, totalitarianism and libertarianism. In my opinion this criticism is just as low-effort. > It's almost like justice and rule…

> Societies with less inequality tend to be more peaceful. Yes absolutely, but that's not what we're talking about. We are talking about "justice". > Economic policy and social policy are very much intertwined. Cause and effect, yes, but economic policies don't (or shouldn't) affect the notion of justice. Laws should not be written as "if you own X amount or produce y units" as they were in the Soviet union. >Law and…

But the rule of law does bend under the influence of capitalism, and saying so has nothing to do with communism.

And you mention freedom, but freedom is orthogonal to how economic production is managed. You can have a capitalist society with very little freedom (fascism) and you can have a communist society with lots of freedom (anarcho communism).

But we can also critique capitalism on its own, because the status quo is always worth criticizing, and that doesn’t automatically mean a person is talking about communism at all.

Re: FBI Didn't Knock Down a Suspect's Door Because 'It Was an Affluent Neighborhood'

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Post by Moru »

patrick451 wrote: post #49
cbozeman wrote: post #40

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If the FBI is considering busting down your door, they do not have the wrong person.

Wow, you are naive. I guess they may as well execute them on the spot too. Judge and jury and the fifth amendment be damned.

Or comment has a missing /s

Re: FBI Didn't Knock Down a Suspect's Door Because 'It Was an Affluent Neighborhood'

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Post by LudwigNagasena »

exogeny wrote: post #43
LudwigNagasena wrote: post #23

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yeah, that certainly sounds like an issue of race and not of class. I guess in racially homogenous societies wealthy people don’t get any preferential treatment by police in any way whatsoever.

They're inexorably linked in this country. That shouldn't even need to be pointed out.

But is it reasonable to derail every discussion about wealth into a discussion about race, ethnicity, gender, sexual orientation, religion, height, diet and god knows what else merely because those things are linked in some way?

Re: FBI Didn't Knock Down a Suspect's Door Because 'It Was an Affluent Neighborhood'

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Post by croes »

watwut wrote: post #46
ncmncm wrote: post #9

Maybe we should be asking why they are so eager to break down other people's doors, instead of harassing them for not breaking down just this one.

The very same people who are pointing out this were complaining about aggressive police tactic for years. It is not instead.

So why not use the same tactics for both, rich and poor?

Or is violence reserved for poorer people?

Re: FBI Didn't Knock Down a Suspect's Door Because 'It Was an Affluent Neighborhood'

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Post by DaiPlusPlus »

slim wrote: post #55
sitzkrieg wrote: post #5

Earlier quoted context omitted.

thanks for pointing something out that is in the article?!

He's pointing out that people in the neighbourhood are politically influent, that's why they are treated that way, not because they are rich. Which I did not get even after reading it. I'm thankful he pointed it out

> people in the neighbourhood are politically influent, that's why they are treated that way, not because they are rich

When (and where) is there a difference?

What neighborhoods are there where rich people reside who have no more social or political influence than people living in The Projects?

Re: FBI Didn't Knock Down a Suspect's Door Because 'It Was an Affluent Neighborhood'

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Post by [deleted] »

MegaButts wrote: post #13
alephnan wrote: post #11

Well if the suspect was wrongly accused, they'd have to reimburse the damages. Does the FBI have a budget for such things? Does it involve extra paperwork if it passes a certain threshold? Is the issue here profiling of the demographic or the risk ( in terms of cost ).

> Well if the suspect was wrongly accused, they'd have to reimburse the damages. Do they? I'm honestly asking, but I would be surprised if most of the time the police (or any 3 letter agency) reimbursed victims for their negligence.

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Re: FBI Didn't Knock Down a Suspect's Door Because 'It Was an Affluent Neighborhood'

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Post by bagels »

alephnan wrote: post #11

Well if the suspect was wrongly accused, they'd have to reimburse the damages. Does the FBI have a budget for such things? Does it involve extra paperwork if it passes a certain threshold? Is the issue here profiling of the demographic or the risk ( in terms of cost ).

I don't think that is true that the government must reimburse for damages.

They can literally blow your house up and not pay for it. https://www.npr.org/2019/10/30/774788611/police-owe-nothing-...

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