Maybe Americans should use European hosts and Europeans can use American ones. Does anyone know of any good international webmail providers, with SSL?
U.S. Government Compels Google To Hand Over Wikileaks Volunteer's Gmail Data
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Re: U.S. Government Compels Google To Hand Over Wikileaks Volunteer's Gmail Data
#32The headline is a little disingenuous (technically correct, yes...) - especially if thats all anyone ever reads. Google didn't hand this over on a whim, rather: The contacts list and IP address data of Jacob Appelbaum, a WikiLeaks volunteer and developer for Tor was given to the U.S. government after they requested it using a secret court order enabled by a controversial 1986 law called the Electronic Communications…
You wanted them to put that in the headline?
It would have been easy to write a less disingenuous headline. For example, "U.S. Compelled Google To Hand Over Wikileaks Volunteer's Gmail Data."
Re: U.S. Government Compels Google To Hand Over Wikileaks Volunteer's Gmail Data
#33The headline is a little disingenuous (technically correct, yes...) - especially if thats all anyone ever reads. Google didn't hand this over on a whim, rather: The contacts list and IP address data of Jacob Appelbaum, a WikiLeaks volunteer and developer for Tor was given to the U.S. government after they requested it using a secret court order enabled by a controversial 1986 law called the Electronic Communications…
So you quoted part of the article to give more details to the headline. That is basically how the whole article/headline thing works.
Re: U.S. Government Compels Google To Hand Over Wikileaks Volunteer's Gmail Data
#34The headline is a little disingenuous (technically correct, yes...) - especially if thats all anyone ever reads. Google didn't hand this over on a whim, rather: The contacts list and IP address data of Jacob Appelbaum, a WikiLeaks volunteer and developer for Tor was given to the U.S. government after they requested it using a secret court order enabled by a controversial 1986 law called the Electronic Communications…
> Electronic Communications Privacy Act
Orwellian naming conventions are all the rage these days :-) Jerry Yang faced a lot of heat for doing pretty much the same thing in China. Google seems to reluctant to criticize the US government now, unlike, for e.g., the Chinese government.
Re: U.S. Government Compels Google To Hand Over Wikileaks Volunteer's Gmail Data
#35Maybe Americans should use European hosts and Europeans can use American ones. Does anyone know of any good international webmail providers, with SSL?
They interchange all kinds of information. Maybe we should all use Icelandic hosts.
Re: U.S. Government Compels Google To Hand Over Wikileaks Volunteer's Gmail Data
#36The headline is a little disingenuous (technically correct, yes...) - especially if thats all anyone ever reads. Google didn't hand this over on a whim, rather: The contacts list and IP address data of Jacob Appelbaum, a WikiLeaks volunteer and developer for Tor was given to the U.S. government after they requested it using a secret court order enabled by a controversial 1986 law called the Electronic Communications…
> Electronic Communications Privacy Act Orwellian naming conventions are all the rage these days :-) Jerry Yang faced a lot of heat for doing pretty much the same thing in China. Google seems to reluctant to criticize the US government now, unlike, for e.g., the Chinese government.
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Re: U.S. Government Compels Google To Hand Over Wikileaks Volunteer's Gmail Data
#37Maybe Americans should use European hosts and Europeans can use American ones. Does anyone know of any good international webmail providers, with SSL?
Try hushmail, and/or use your webmail through tor. Also check out this list of VPNs: http://torrentfreak.com/which-vpn-providers-really-take-anon...
Re: U.S. Government Compels Google To Hand Over Wikileaks Volunteer's Gmail Data
#38Re: U.S. Government Compels Google To Hand Over Wikileaks Volunteer's Gmail Data
#39The headline is a little disingenuous (technically correct, yes...) - especially if thats all anyone ever reads. Google didn't hand this over on a whim, rather: The contacts list and IP address data of Jacob Appelbaum, a WikiLeaks volunteer and developer for Tor was given to the U.S. government after they requested it using a secret court order enabled by a controversial 1986 law called the Electronic Communications…
So you quoted part of the article to give more details to the headline. That is basically how the whole article/headline thing works.
I recall that the headline was worded quite a bit differently when the GP wrote their post. The headline has since been updated.
Re: U.S. Government Compels Google To Hand Over Wikileaks Volunteer's Gmail Data
#40The headline is a little disingenuous (technically correct, yes...) - especially if thats all anyone ever reads. Google didn't hand this over on a whim, rather: The contacts list and IP address data of Jacob Appelbaum, a WikiLeaks volunteer and developer for Tor was given to the U.S. government after they requested it using a secret court order enabled by a controversial 1986 law called the Electronic Communications…
> Electronic Communications Privacy Act Orwellian naming conventions are all the rage these days :-) Jerry Yang faced a lot of heat for doing pretty much the same thing in China. Google seems to reluctant to criticize the US government now, unlike, for e.g., the Chinese government.
EXACTLY the same thing. It's a really interesting point. When China does it, they're horrible. When the US does it, what is it? Is there a difference or not? The motivations are quite similar, and one probably can only look at whether the motivations of each country can be justified from a moral standpoint.