Ask HN: Why is there no Linux distro that “just works” like macOS?
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Re: Ask HN: Why is there no Linux distro that “just works” like macOS?
#122If you're thoroughly familiar with MacOS, you may have to invest a little time in 'Unlearning MacOS' before you can come to speed with any other OS, Windows included.
Re: Ask HN: Why is there no Linux distro that “just works” like macOS?
#123I have more issues with Apple OS’s. Latest example: Hotspot from iPone to iPad frequently drops and needs reconnection, Zoom volume is too low and I can’t fix it, privacy buttons are randomly enabled after disabled, etc.
Re: Ask HN: Why is there no Linux distro that “just works” like macOS?
#124Re: Ask HN: Why is there no Linux distro that “just works” like macOS?
#125Ubuntu on Lenovo laptops have been just that many years. I've used 3 different X1 carbon laptops with ubuntu for many years now. Worry free, no tinkering. Just works.
Re: Ask HN: Why is there no Linux distro that “just works” like macOS?
#126Re: Ask HN: Why is there no Linux distro that “just works” like macOS?
#127That Linux distributions work as well as they do is a miracle in itself, I think. Comparing them with the massively vertically integrated software and hardware package built by the richest company on earth is unfair. Notice that whenever anyone has attempted to subsume different parts of the Linux stack (systemd, etc) into one project, the wider community hasn't really gone along with it without being dragged kicking and screaming, and some times it has led to further fragmentation. I don't think this is necessarily a bad thing too, I feel the chaotic evolution,-not-design character of the ecosystem gives us a computing environment that has a better chance of staying free of whatever the clergy of the alternative cathedral model would choose to do, especially when sponsored by amoral corporations.
So, I don't know what you would like to hear. Does Linux "just work" (whatever this marketing aphorism means?). I think it does, for me. My Dell XPS laptop running an Ubuntu LTS for work, a relatively expensive custom-built desktop rig running Debian Testing at home, and my medium-sized server for my personal projects running Debian Stable on AWS have run without any issues for more than a couple of years. Would I trade these for a massively expensive pretty aluminium box running a closed-source system that will take me several months to master as much as I have Linux (and really can never really, properly, understand due to it's closed nature) just to save me probably a couple of hours a year fixing minor issues on my Linux boxes? Probably not.
Re: Ask HN: Why is there no Linux distro that “just works” like macOS?
#128Developers are the ones building software. In a developers mindset, an interface is some sort of API, not a GUI. To them, it’s also more interesting to solve a technical problem than to build a great GUI.
Designers (especially software and UX designers) are not valued to the same degree as developers/engineers in most organizations, including most FOSS projects. Apple is the only corporation that approached this differently from day one.
My own experience as both a developer and designer show me this to be true. Especially the abrasive and uninterested responses I encountered every single time I was offering to contribute to a design overhaul. The developers did not want to deal with it at all. Imagine how a talented but not highly technical designer would experience this community interaction.
All of the above is simply GUI-related. When it comes to interoperability between different projects, ideas and philosophies all too easily clash. And with no project leader to mediate and/or decide, it oftentimes leads nowhere or even sabotage. To illustrate this, you may want to read about the ongoing ZFS kernel integration saga. And that’s not even GUI-related.
Given the current circumstances, mainstream adoption of any Linux/FOSS desktop will never happen.
Re: Ask HN: Why is there no Linux distro that “just works” like macOS?
#129I use linux on most of my computers that doesn't do GUI/gaming, and Windows on the others, macOS doesn't work in any of the cases for me.
Re: Ask HN: Why is there no Linux distro that “just works” like macOS?
#130Earlier quoted context omitted.
Everything external display I’ve plugged my M1 Mac into has worked well. Monitors of various dimensions and a TV. It’s just-worked for me. What’s the trash for you’re referring to?
> Everything external display I’ve plugged my M1 Mac into has worked well. Ever tried 1440p? It looks like crap. There's a reason BetterDummy is a thing.