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Re: Back to India

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Post by zaptheimpaler »

krzyk wrote: post #227
SkyMarshal wrote: post #210

> the insane opportunities available in India now [3]. > India’s rising startup and tech wave > Massive switch from wealth accumulation mode to wealth creation mode. > And the amount of VC funding in India combined with the startup ecosystem’s energy here is absolute fire > The collective risk appetite has never been higher. > The step after the ‘American dream’ is the ‘Indian dream’. This is great to hear about Indi…

It will be hard because India likes to buy from Russia recently and doesn't see a problem with invasion.

Germany continues to buy oil from Russia too, but I never see them being criticized for it. They bought oil for decades from Russia, arguably funding the current invasion, yet that was held up as a shining example of how interdepenence via trading can maintain peace between nations.

There's always a double standard at play. For EU, buying oil is a necessary evil. For India, it's "supporting" the enemy.

Re: Back to India

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Post by [deleted] »

pm90 wrote: post #41
andrewshadura wrote: post #33

India is great, but the pollution is big cities is intolerable.

Depends on which ones, though. And there has been a ton of investment in public transit systems, so its likely going to be a very different place after all these systems are built out. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mKcendj7TNM

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Re: Back to India

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Post by rayiner »

Markoff wrote: post #159
ramraj07 wrote: post #40

Good for you but there’s no real advantage professionally in moving back, but no disadvantage either. Sure you’re saying H1B restricts but does it really? Have you truly explored all immigration options? Or did you just balk at all the extra beauracracy and said I’ll go back to india? Which is fine, but do note the irony of moving to india to avoid bureaucracy lol. Apply and do your GST, run between five different br…

I agree with last paragraph, while maybe not very relevant for young single male, certainly very relevant who plans to settle down. But honestly choosing between US and India to raise kid is choosing between two very bad options and there are more options in world, someone with IT background shouldn't have many issues to move to Europe which would be certainly better option long term raising the family, but maybe sli…

I’d never raise my kids in someone else’s ethnostate. In America my kids are unquestioningly accepted as American even in random rural parts of the country. Meanwhile in say Germany there are many second generation Turkish people who still don’t really feel German; similar things about Muslim immigrants to France, etc.

Re: Back to India

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Post by zozbot234 »

qiskit wrote: post #246
multjoy wrote: post #235

Earlier quoted context omitted.

>Who cares whether india is a democracy or not? Anybody who wants to do business. Democracies have stable, predictable rule of law. Do you want to invest in a country where a dictator could simply decide that he is going take your assets?

> Democracies have stable, predictable rule of law. Really? Russia? Venezuela? They are democracies. Also, do you realize that many of the world's poorest and unstable countries are democracies? India has been a democracy for nearly 80 years. Nobody wants to do business with them. Everyone wants to do business with china. Go figure. > Do you want to invest in a country where a dictator could simply decide that he is…

Russia and Venezuela simply never developed a civil society in the modern sense. Same for many poor and unstable countries. They're still likely far better off than similarly vulnerable autocracies - I'd much rather be in one of those flawed democracies than, say, in North Korea. 'Competent leaders' are not born, they're made. Democracy, liberal/bourgeois values, civil society, proper rewards for merit... All of these things ultimately foster competence.

Re: Back to India

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Post by yumraj »

krzyk wrote: post #227
SkyMarshal wrote: post #210

> the insane opportunities available in India now [3]. > India’s rising startup and tech wave > Massive switch from wealth accumulation mode to wealth creation mode. > And the amount of VC funding in India combined with the startup ecosystem’s energy here is absolute fire > The collective risk appetite has never been higher. > The step after the ‘American dream’ is the ‘Indian dream’. This is great to hear about Indi…

It will be hard because India likes to buy from Russia recently and doesn't see a problem with invasion.

As always the reality is complicated, and yes, India does see a problem with the invasion. India is not like China where the media is openly supporting the Russian narrative. India is merely keeping quiet, with many in the media telling it to take a more open position against Russia.

India has massive dependency on Russian military hardware and spare parts. So what should it do, just break off with Russia over a war in the Europe and get screwed itself when China-Pak nexus comes knocking on the border? No country in the world would do that, none-zero-zilch…

Moreover, Europe itself is buying Russian oil and gas, and wants India to stop - that reeks of double standards..

International politics is much murkier than national politics, so nothing is ever black or white.

Re: Back to India

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Post by reducesuffering »

immigrantheart wrote: post #219

I can relate so much so much with this post, but not because of lack of opportunity. Quite the contrary, I actually won a green card lottery, came from SEA, work as a SWE with FAANG salary. Now I live in NYC, married to a wife (also not from US, but also not from my country), sponsored her to live here with me. Now I am torn, or specifically, we are torn. Our heart is in 3 different countries. These two countries (no…

> We would need to prioritize language learning for our kids more than anything else. We want our kids to be born here, in the US, and they will have automatically 3 citizenships at birth, until they have to choose when they turn 18. I wonder how they will feel if we constantly move around like this?

Language shouldn't be a problem. You can easily speak to your children in your origin language, your wife her's, and your kids will speak three languages by the time they're 7.

However, you should the country to stay in for the next 13 years by the time the kid is 5. Most people that grew up moving around often, breaking childhood friendships, regret that they had to.

You've been living in the US for 10 years, and it's a neutral halfway point for you and your wife. Unless she is very excited about moving to your origin country, where she will struggle to speak the language and fit in, vice-versa with you and her country, I think living out your lives in the US and giving them an upper middle class US upbringing is the best thing you can do for you and them, from my American 3rd person perspective.

Typically, you'll end up making yearly multi-week trips back to the origin countries for relative visiting with your kids.

Re: Back to India

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Post by mama123 »

The speed at which things are improving in India combined with the restrictions in the covid lockdown has made many rethink their current situation.

The lockdown has forced people to their homes with limited opportunities for outdoor activity especially in the winter. Things start to look very different pretty quickly.

While it is definitely hot in many parts of India, one can have access to round the year gardening, house help is affordable.

Re: Back to India

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Post by dsabanin »

qiskit wrote: post #232
SkyMarshal wrote: post #210

> the insane opportunities available in India now [3]. > India’s rising startup and tech wave > Massive switch from wealth accumulation mode to wealth creation mode. > And the amount of VC funding in India combined with the startup ecosystem’s energy here is absolute fire > The collective risk appetite has never been higher. > The step after the ‘American dream’ is the ‘Indian dream’. This is great to hear about Indi…

> This is great to hear about India. It is and I hope india is able to develop. > The more developed and economically successful the world’s largest democracy is, the better for the world in general. Who cares whether india is a democracy or not? It's so odd people parrot the propaganda so religiously. Every post about india inevitably mentions something about india being the largest democracy. Who cares? If india wa…

Russia is not a democracy by any stretch of the imagination.

Re: Back to India

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Post by MisterSandman »

stjohnswarts wrote: post #173
secondaryacct wrote: post #19

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I hate that. I call myself immigrant in my new country and I find it very snobish to call ourselves "expat". In fact I did some tutoring to a school for poorer pupils, many of them second generation from the Philipines (so born in Hong Kong, where I immigrated, with two parents born in PH). When I told them I was an immigrant they were dumbfounded "but then you re very lucky to have arrived here", I was like "not at…

I can't agree. they generally describe different situations and are used in different contexts. We have different "degree" words for all kinds of situations. I think it's people just trying to virtue signal on both sides though. People really overreact to what in the end is just a word.

You're not disagree-ing, the different "contexts" are what is the issue here. The only difference between immigrant and expat is how rich and privileged the individual is. In the past, it's been used to differentiate between white "expats" working in India, and Indian "immigrants" being used as slave labor in other countries. Whether or not its virtue-siganlling is for you to decide for yourself.

Re: Back to India

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Post by rayiner »

throwaway_1928 wrote: post #236
rayiner wrote: post #175

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That’s not a quote from the statute. Under INA 214(b), an immigrant entering the country is presumed to have immigrant intent unless he can prove that he intends to stay only temporarily and plans to leave. This is a condition of entry on any non-immigrant visa, including the H1-B. Ordinarily, applying for permanent residency would signal immigrant intent, which would be a violation of the H1B. The INS later created…

INA 214(h) may be interpreted as follows: "In addition, INA 214(h) provides that an H-1B nonimmigrant may have "dual intent," i.e., the fact that an H-1B nonimmigrant has sought permanent residence in the United States or will be seeking such status in the future does not preclude him or her from obtaining or maintaining H-1B nonimmigrant status. The applicant may legitimately come to the United States as a nonimmigr…

You’re quoting a State Department policies and procedures handbook. Its not the statute or even a regulation. It describes the current “wink, wink” practice that exists—as I noted above. But it doesn’t tell you what the law means, or give H1B holders any legal rights. See United States v. Mead. And it can be changed by any administration on a whim.
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