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Re: Back to India

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Post by pm90 »

johndfsgdgdfg wrote: post #194

I have always wondered this. In US left wing groups are always outraged about treatment of illegal/undocumented immigrants. Why is there no outrage how legal immigrants are being treated in US?

Generally people who come via work visas are likely to be better educated and will probably be ok if they have to leave. While the immigrants who tend to come illegally are doing so mostly out of desperation (economic or political).

There’s also not much interest politically to make it easier for Indian immigrants specifically. For folks who have already immigrated, they have a “I got mine, fuck you” mentality, while the people in the process itself can’t vote and influence political decisions. The community of Indian Americans is also not large enough to have extensive networks similar to that of immigrants from South/Central American nations.

Re: Back to India

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Post by qiskit »

SkyMarshal wrote: post #210

> the insane opportunities available in India now [3]. > India’s rising startup and tech wave > Massive switch from wealth accumulation mode to wealth creation mode. > And the amount of VC funding in India combined with the startup ecosystem’s energy here is absolute fire > The collective risk appetite has never been higher. > The step after the ‘American dream’ is the ‘Indian dream’. This is great to hear about Indi…

> This is great to hear about India.

It is and I hope india is able to develop.

> The more developed and economically successful the world’s largest democracy is, the better for the world in general.

Who cares whether india is a democracy or not? It's so odd people parrot the propaganda so religiously. Every post about india inevitably mentions something about india being the largest democracy. Who cares? If india wasn't a democracy, should we hope 1.4 billion indians revel in poverty?

> The US, Europe, and allies should be doing whatever we can to support this.

We will support as long as india is poor and unsuccessful. As soon as they get rich and strong, we'll attack them just like we did to japan in the 80s and china today. The largest geographical democracy is russia and boy we surely don't support them. And we sanctioned india when they developed nukes in 90s, even though they were a democracy.

How about we support india lifting hundreds of millions of humans being out of poverty and worry less about democracy which has kept them in poverty for nearly years after independence?

Re: Back to India

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Post by pm90 »

golgappa wrote: post #85

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I was genuinely shocked when some white American friends confided in me that I wasn’t “like the other Indians who smell like curry all the time”.

There is progress in representation since then (this was about 7 years ago) and the country (well, not the Red States) do seem to be moving in the right direction though.

Re: Back to India

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Post by immigrantheart »

glogla wrote: post #54
vishnumohandas wrote: post #11

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I moved from Switzerland to India sometime back, for reasons similar to OP's. Here are my ₹2 > quality of life "Quality" is subjective. My wife and I value having our parents around, being able to afford a cook/maid/nanny, not having to deal with winter and darkness, ... > infrastructure For sure it's worse in India. But our lifestyle here is such that we don't have to deal with it frequently. We live next to friends…

> being able to afford a cook/maid/nanny Having domestic servants is only possible in placesi of high inequality.

What if you provided those domestic servants place to live, food, internet, TV, sofa, clothing, etc, and also salary, and of course you let them take vacation as well.

Re: Back to India

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Post by multjoy »

qiskit wrote: post #232
SkyMarshal wrote: post #210

> the insane opportunities available in India now [3]. > India’s rising startup and tech wave > Massive switch from wealth accumulation mode to wealth creation mode. > And the amount of VC funding in India combined with the startup ecosystem’s energy here is absolute fire > The collective risk appetite has never been higher. > The step after the ‘American dream’ is the ‘Indian dream’. This is great to hear about Indi…

> This is great to hear about India. It is and I hope india is able to develop. > The more developed and economically successful the world’s largest democracy is, the better for the world in general. Who cares whether india is a democracy or not? It's so odd people parrot the propaganda so religiously. Every post about india inevitably mentions something about india being the largest democracy. Who cares? If india wa…

>Who cares whether india is a democracy or not?

Anybody who wants to do business. Democracies have stable, predictable rule of law. Do you want to invest in a country where a dictator could simply decide that he is going take your assets?

Re: Back to India

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Post by throwaway_1928 »

rayiner wrote: post #175
throwaway_1928 wrote: post #154

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Americans want H1Bs to be temporary workers who go back home, not immigrate permanently. That’s why the statute has “temporary” plastered all over it This is false. The H1B is a 'dual intent visa', which means it "allows foreigners to be temporarily present in the U.S. with lawful status and immigrant intent". > Unless they’re eligible for a real immigrant visa (in America, the main one is the family reunification…

That’s not a quote from the statute. Under INA 214(b), an immigrant entering the country is presumed to have immigrant intent unless he can prove that he intends to stay only temporarily and plans to leave. This is a condition of entry on any non-immigrant visa, including the H1-B. Ordinarily, applying for permanent residency would signal immigrant intent, which would be a violation of the H1B. The INS later created…

INA 214(h) may be interpreted as follows:

"In addition, INA 214(h) provides that an H-1B nonimmigrant may have "dual intent," i.e., the fact that an H-1B nonimmigrant has sought permanent residence in the United States or will be seeking such status in the future does not preclude him or her from obtaining or maintaining H-1B nonimmigrant status. The applicant may legitimately come to the United States as a nonimmigrant under the H-1B classification and depart voluntarily at the end of his or her authorized period of stay, and, at the same time, lawfully seek to become a permanent resident of the United States without jeopardizing H-1B nonimmigrant status. Consequently, your evaluation of an applicant’s eligibility for an H-1B visa must not focus on the issue of immigrant intent." [1]

[1] https://fam.state.gov/fam/09FAM/09FAM040210.html

Re: Back to India

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Post by ra7 »

krzyk wrote: post #227
SkyMarshal wrote: post #210

> the insane opportunities available in India now [3]. > India’s rising startup and tech wave > Massive switch from wealth accumulation mode to wealth creation mode. > And the amount of VC funding in India combined with the startup ecosystem’s energy here is absolute fire > The collective risk appetite has never been higher. > The step after the ‘American dream’ is the ‘Indian dream’. This is great to hear about Indi…

It will be hard because India likes to buy from Russia recently and doesn't see a problem with invasion.

Huh? They’ve repeatedly said they don’t support violence and has offered to mediate between Russia and Ukraine. Just because they’re looking out for their economic needs — which are wildly different than developed nations — doesn’t mean they support the invasion.

Re: Back to India

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Post by weatherlite »

me_me_mu_mu wrote: post #190
hans1729 wrote: post #5

I'd imagine moving back to India after being successful in the US gives you lots of leverage and status, in the sense of being a big fish in a smaller pool (what a beautiful irony, thinking of India of all places as the smaller pool, heh). But lets be real, isn't the quality of life much worse? I've never been there (or in the US, for that matter), but I'd imagine that things like infrastructure are far worse in Indi…

Imo it isn’t worth it. My family left India for a better life because having no running water and spotty electricity is an awful living experience. But the worst part is going outside and seeing that 80% of the people are doing worse than you and the suffering I saw was absolutely mind boggling. This was back in the 90s and 00s. I went back recently in 2017/18 and between the 400ppm smog (when there was a wildfire ne…

But you'd still live the life of a multi millionaire if you moved to India, no? You'd easily be in the top 1% I think, that means a personal driver and help, a gated community etc etc. So how bad would quality of life be to you then? Yes pollution is the great equalizer though, rich people have to breathe the same air mostly (for now...)

Re: Back to India

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Post by throwaway_1928 »

krzyk wrote: post #227
SkyMarshal wrote: post #210

> the insane opportunities available in India now [3]. > India’s rising startup and tech wave > Massive switch from wealth accumulation mode to wealth creation mode. > And the amount of VC funding in India combined with the startup ecosystem’s energy here is absolute fire > The collective risk appetite has never been higher. > The step after the ‘American dream’ is the ‘Indian dream’. This is great to hear about Indi…

It will be hard because India likes to buy from Russia recently and doesn't see a problem with invasion.

This is a simplistic assessment of India's strategic situation.

Re: Back to India

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Post by weatherlite »

glogla wrote: post #54
vishnumohandas wrote: post #11

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I moved from Switzerland to India sometime back, for reasons similar to OP's. Here are my ₹2 > quality of life "Quality" is subjective. My wife and I value having our parents around, being able to afford a cook/maid/nanny, not having to deal with winter and darkness, ... > infrastructure For sure it's worse in India. But our lifestyle here is such that we don't have to deal with it frequently. We live next to friends…

> being able to afford a cook/maid/nanny Having domestic servants is only possible in placesi of high inequality.

It's not like rich Americans are above paying for servants...they just have nicer names for them like "help"
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