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An Account of the Shanghai Lockdown

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Yes the author cannot freely choose their recipes and was able to buy three fish: > a good ‘catch’ for what we can still buy on delivery apps But they're able to work from home, likely wealthy and well resourced. They also mention this: > we’re lucky — many people (because of the nature of their job) cannot and see their bank account go to zero, or their own business go bankrupt If you can't work, earn money and (the…

Again, the author conjectures that people may starve, but provides no evidence, anecdotal or otherwise, that people are starving.

https://twitter.com/cam_l/status/1512646118575812612

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Heck yea! Locked in our houses for weeks by the authority! A great idea!

Surely weeks of lockdown are better than a chance of decades of disease and disability?

Who pays you to write this shit, seriously.

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Very few jumped in 9/11? Are you kidding me? I personally saw many with my own eyes.

As a percentage it wasn't high. Dozens I think? Maybe 100 jumpers out of 3000 deaths? In the worst situation imaginable. I call that an endorsement for humanity's innate desire to grasp at life.

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Pretty sure this is it. Cannot stress enough that this video is HIGHLY NSFW. https://www.reddit.com/r/PublicFreakout/comments/tzosau/peop...

This is NSFL. For people who are curious but don't want to click, it shows people who committed suicide by hanging, and many, many suicides by jumping off buildings.

Also some comments indiciate that most of the videos are not lockdown related and very old.

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The lockdown is cruel and extreme, but it will save many more lives than anything less drastic. China understands the threat and isn't fucking around with the response. They're not locking down the country's economic engine for fun, or (according to the article) to save face. Thinking that is both racist and childish. They're doing it to save lives. This guy is caught in the middle, and I feel for him, but he's too c…

Since covid is a highly transmissible disease, if you pursue a zero covid policy while not being an island, you're in for never ending pain.

Not even an island works unless you stop travel forever

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I'd like to hear from someone in China on why the government still pursues a zero-Covid policy. Is it just face-saving at this point?

The Chinese vaccine is substantially less effective than the mRNA-based ones, and it hasn't been mandated so the vaccination rate is still low in some areas/populations.

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Based in Shanghai since 2014, I can share some details on why it feels so unbearable to be here right now. Firstly, the totalitarian government have never been good at communicating anything except propaganda. So on one hand we're inundated with "Go Shanghai!" and how brave volunteers distribute food, on the other hand, we're completely in the dark about what's going on. Goalposts are being moved daily, rumors prolif…

Are people with means able to bribe the "baoan" ? I wouldn't be surprised if some sort of black market economy were developing.

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> This is the biggest, richest, most international city of China and people are starving, without medicine, and without freedom. Ouch. Seems like a really bad situation.

Yeah if you completely shut down private services there, then there's no way the government has the resources to help everyone. They'll end up killing and traumatizing far more people than they're saving from covid. Rather than forcing everyone to get a vaccine they do this--I mean if you're going to be a totalitarian system at least do it logically. Just goes to show you how shit the CCP logic is.

Any regime that takes no feedback is bound to crumble. I hope they realize that people starving in their homes does no good for those in power either.

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> People are finding out that state media exists not for accurate news, but only to spin reality into a narrative that fits the powers higher up. Are people really finding that out only now? I thought that this was generally accepted knowledge even in China, despite the constant fear and propaganda they live with. What's happening now with the strict lockdowns and zero-Covid policy is inhumane. People are literally p…

> Are people really finding that out only now? I thought that this was generally accepted knowledge even in China, despite the constant fear and propaganda they live with. Yes and no. You see, 2 decades ago probably half of my peers had that knowledge, that was when the internet was pretty much uncensored compared to how it is today. Over the years they get converted by the narrative and now it's probably 5% or even…

This is interesting to hear, because distrust got so deeply embedded in Hungarians in the previous and the current system, that at this point, barely anyone believe anything, and the ones that do follow after the conspiracy lunatics.

Re: An Account of the Shanghai Lockdown

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> This is the biggest, richest, most international city of China and people are starving, without medicine, and without freedom. Ouch. Seems like a really bad situation.

Yeah if you completely shut down private services there, then there's no way the government has the resources to help everyone. They'll end up killing and traumatizing far more people than they're saving from covid. Rather than forcing everyone to get a vaccine they do this--I mean if you're going to be a totalitarian system at least do it logically. Just goes to show you how shit the CCP logic is.

The Chinese-made vaccines barely work.
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