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An Account of the Shanghai Lockdown

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Re: An Account of the Shanghai Lockdown

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> This is the biggest, richest, most international city of China and people are starving, without medicine, and without freedom. Ouch. Seems like a really bad situation.

The article provides no direct evidence of people starving, only that 'We cannot freely choose our recipes'. There is also a picture of 3 fresh fish!

Dude I live in Shanghai and I’m starving. Just wiped the refrigerator for tomorrow and got no clue for what’s next.

Re: An Account of the Shanghai Lockdown

#152

> This is the biggest, richest, most international city of China and people are starving, without medicine, and without freedom. Ouch. Seems like a really bad situation.

The article provides no direct evidence of people starving, only that 'We cannot freely choose our recipes'. There is also a picture of 3 fresh fish!

Yes the author cannot freely choose their recipes and was able to buy three fish:

> a good ‘catch’ for what we can still buy on delivery apps

But they're able to work from home, likely wealthy and well resourced. They also mention this:

> we’re lucky — many people (because of the nature of their job) cannot and see their bank account go to zero, or their own business go bankrupt

If you can't work, earn money and (therefore) can't scour delivery apps for food you're going to starve (note also: they said they've had one small state-provided package of food for nine days)

Re: An Account of the Shanghai Lockdown

#153

A high school friend of ours is apartment-jailed in Shanghai right now. She is a young mom, and all the moms in the apartment are all out of everything required to care for babies. Trying to share strategies on how to use any kitchen ingredients to make formula or rash ointments… I wonder if this will actually have any political blowback in the coming years, or if this only strengthens the ccp.

Can you make formula from other ingredients? You can let a baby drink from another women's breast though.

That's how they did it in the past, when a mother wasn't producing enough milk. It was an actual job called wet nurse [1].

[1] https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wet_nurse

Re: An Account of the Shanghai Lockdown

#154
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Earlier quoted context omitted.

The article provides no direct evidence of people starving, only that 'We cannot freely choose our recipes'. There is also a picture of 3 fresh fish!

One assumes he acquired the fish with the exchange of money, however some occupations actually still require your physical presence outside your bedroom. Do you see the catch-22? Given the photo of food rations (unlikely to support an adult for a day) the implication is there is no financial support for Shanghai residents, but the author doesn't say.

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Re: An Account of the Shanghai Lockdown

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Large scale infections like we've had elsewhere would be impossible to hide. China's low case and death rate is broadly accurate.

https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/china/ Find me another country on earth whose numbers look even remotely like this.

It is a testament to the effectiveness of a zero Covid policy rigorously applied. Taiwan has similar figures. Could have been us too!

Re: An Account of the Shanghai Lockdown

#157

Kind of crazy how sentimental and emotional the response is with barely any actual discussion going on about the merits of this on a grand scale. Yes, stories about people's dogs and temporary economic depression are awful. The larger picture is that China by pursuing these policies has stopped millions of deaths, probably tens of millions of cases of long term disabilities, and overall kept the economy going. It's w…

The greater good argument, eh? That never works in the long run.

Re: An Account of the Shanghai Lockdown

#158

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The article provides no direct evidence of people starving, only that 'We cannot freely choose our recipes'. There is also a picture of 3 fresh fish!

Dude I live in Shanghai and I’m starving. Just wiped the refrigerator for tomorrow and got no clue for what’s next.

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Re: An Account of the Shanghai Lockdown

#160

Kind of crazy how sentimental and emotional the response is with barely any actual discussion going on about the merits of this on a grand scale. Yes, stories about people's dogs and temporary economic depression are awful. The larger picture is that China by pursuing these policies has stopped millions of deaths, probably tens of millions of cases of long term disabilities, and overall kept the economy going. It's w…

The lockdown policy was successful in these aspects before, but it’s very unclear if it can still work with omicron.
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