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Re: Back to India

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Post by srean »

Dharmakirti wrote: post #87
nindalf wrote: post #77

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This comment is obtuse. Sure, technically Jain is not a caste, but all Jains and Parsees are considered equivalent to Hindu upper castes. No one will decline to drink water offered to them by a Jain. That is something that still happens to Dalits in India today, in urban areas as well.

the deracination in this comment is astounding. I grew up in rural India all my life and this cartoonish casteism is no longer part of the mainstream Indian society. There will be isolated cases, but I’ve seen times and again people freely drinking water from a _pyau_ irrespective of the caste of the person. I implore you to take a rational look at Indian society and not rely on WaPo/NYT to know your own land.

> I grew up in rural India all my life and this cartoonish casteism is no longer part of the mainstream Indian society

All I will say is that extrapolation and generalization from personal experiences leads to biased perspectives. Your experience does not invalidates other's and vice versa. My recent experience in Rajasthan has been that caste dynamics is still in a healthy full flourish.

Re: Back to India

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Post by saimiam »

princevegeta89 wrote: post #74

Fuck the H1b visa. Yes I understand that we have created a huge GC backlog by immigrating here in large numbers but that doesn't mean we should be dragged around like a toy. This is sadly the impression I've formed these days. Our entire lives here revolve around that visa and we could basically be holding on to it for 30 to 50 years before we can get a GC lol. In the meantime, maintaining our driver's licenses, bein…

Man, you said it. I hated that stuff when I was on an H1B. Cannot emphasise how much nicer life is once you are no longer holding out for that (apparently) magical Green Card. As of date, apparently my GC petition date is current but I'll be damned if I'm going back to the US to stand in line, hat in hand for slip of paper telling me I'm allowed to live normally again.

Re: Back to India

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Post by Dharmakirti »

nindalf wrote: post #94
Dharmakirti wrote: post #90

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Thus is a dog whistle for casteism. This is a standard modus operendi of a certain section of opinionated people to drag caste into any discussion about India. Caste is a complex topic but this discussion has nothing to do with it.

Haha, that term doesn’t mean what you think it means. But it’s alright. My point was that OP reckons India is great to return to. And I agree, it is! As long as you’re an upper caste male, like OP and I are. And even if that makes you uncomfortable, it is pertinent to the discussion of whether someone should go back to India. Ironically, people like you insisting we shouldn’t discuss caste only makes this conclusion…

No we should definitely discuss and eliminate casteism, no disagreement on that. But you don’t comment “White male privilege” in all the other posts, right?

Re: Back to India

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Post by saimiam »

nodemaker wrote: post #95

Okay so I did the same thing in 2012 after being frustrated working with the H1B system for 2 years. In 2013 however I moved to the netherlands for a job and in 2020 I became a dutch national (Actually spent the whole of 2019 in colombia). Now after 2 years of travelling (mostly living in spain) I am moving back to India again and will try Mumbai. I work with us companies remotely and will probably keep doing so and…

Hit me up in Mumbai sai @ pretzelbox dot cc.

Re: Back to India

#105

Post by [deleted] »

princevegeta89 wrote: post #74

Fuck the H1b visa. Yes I understand that we have created a huge GC backlog by immigrating here in large numbers but that doesn't mean we should be dragged around like a toy. This is sadly the impression I've formed these days. Our entire lives here revolve around that visa and we could basically be holding on to it for 30 to 50 years before we can get a GC lol. In the meantime, maintaining our driver's licenses, bein…

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Re: Back to India

#106

Post by Infinitesimus »

Dharmakirti wrote: post #103
nindalf wrote: post #94

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Haha, that term doesn’t mean what you think it means. But it’s alright. My point was that OP reckons India is great to return to. And I agree, it is! As long as you’re an upper caste male, like OP and I are. And even if that makes you uncomfortable, it is pertinent to the discussion of whether someone should go back to India. Ironically, people like you insisting we shouldn’t discuss caste only makes this conclusion…

No we should definitely discuss and eliminate casteism, no disagreement on that. But you don’t comment “White male privilege” in all the other posts, right?

Well, OP just said they're not a white male so this shouldn't be surprising. They're commenting on something they likely understand better.

Re: Back to India

#107

Post by riantogo »

DeathArrow wrote: post #83

I think the author took some good decisions. First going in a different country, learning and getting to know a different culture. Second, going back to his own country and participate in a rising industry, thus laying another brick at the well being of his country. It's exactly what I would have done if I were in his shoes. Now it's kind of late for me to go work and study in another country. Many of my fellow count…

Don’t feel sorry for them. It is a choice they are able to make for themselves. Most of these expats visit home regularly and see the ground realities. They are in a better place to compare the lives between the two places. Most choose the county they immigrated to. Stop and think why it might be so.

Re: Back to India

#108

Post by nodemaker »

sgt wrote: post #72
d3nj4l wrote: post #29

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If you’re on an H1B, you must be employed by a company. If you get fired or quit, you must find a job within a couple of months or leave the country.

In the IT industry though - at this time - that is probably not a huge risk.

Its more of a question of status. If youre one month away of being sent back to India how can you feel good about yourself.

Re: Back to India

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Post by ChuckNorris89 »

saidinesh5 wrote: post #81
ChuckNorris89 wrote: post #52

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Isn't lax immigration basically wage suppression on the local German workforce and a handout to the asset/business owning class? If you can basically hire anyone in the world instead of locals, then what leverage does the local workforce have to demand higher wages? Feels like a power imbalance that greatly benefits the employers, banks, real estate owners, retail businesses and the boreoarctic government apparatus,…

It can be easier and cheaper to hire locally, compared to sponsoring a work visa to a foreigner. For highly skilled specialists, the minimum wage for a German work Visa is 56,800 EUR (EU Blue Card) and 44,304 EUR for shortage jobs. (1). So at an individual level, wage suppression might not always happen. (Back when I was offered jobs there, my colleagues there were earning less). That being said, at scale, the increa…

>It can be easier and cheaper to hire locally, compared to sponsoring a work visa to a foreigner.

Depends how you define cheaper. The visa sponsorship is a one time sunk cost, but if the candidate you sponsor aggress to work for several thousands or even tens of thousands less per year than the local candidates, then the saving for the company are obvious.

It's an opens secret that companie in Germany/EU usually sponsor the candidates who accept less than the market rate, otherwise they would just pay market rate or a bit higher and hire a local without the visa hassle. D'uh! Even my former German boss was open about this with me that the recruiting department is constantly trying to bring candidates from places with low wages and low QoL like Brasil (their example, not mine) in order to not have to pay higher than market wages to poach local talent.

>the minimum wage for a German work Visa is 56,800 EUR (EU Blue Card) and 44,304 EUR for shortage jobs.

44K/year seems pretty low for a so called "shortage job", and even more so if you consider the rampant inflation in the past couple of years. AFAIK 44K is pretty much around or sometimes even far less than a new grad makes in a skilled field at a good company. So, IMHO such low wages for supposedly "shortage jobs" are there for wage suppression and nothing else. If we had something like 70-80k/year as the bar for a shortage wage then we'd be talking sense.

The secondary effect of immigration is increasing the burden on inelastic services and assets that everyone needs such as doctors and rentals for everyone, as the real estate supply is highly restricted due to NIMBYism and several political and financial reasons around the rigged real-estate market I don't want to get in right now as that always makes my blood boil.

Re: Back to India

#110

Post by sudhirkhanger »

riantogo wrote: post #99
arcen wrote: post #69

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I agree things aren't the best and you make several valid points. However, seems to me that you are in the camp who would rather shit on their own country instead of finding ways to make things better for everyone. You too are a part of the privileged class at this moment - sitting in the US (presumably).

Shit on your own country? What does that even mean? The place you were born by chance? Now you have to “own” it as an identity? Do you have the same beliefs about government? religion? caste? race? I suggest you try freeing yourself of such burden.

Do an exercise for me since you have freed yourself from the burden of natural identity. Go to a foreign nation and destroy your password.

It will teach you a practical lesson in natural identity. Do make sure to go to a nation that you think is the greatest nation in human lifetime.

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