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People who press on cookie banners anything except “agree” – why do you do that?

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Re: People who press on cookie banners anything except “agree” – why do you do that?

#81
Spite.

The banners are required by data privacy legislation and are often dark patterns that make it easy to agree to "all" but usually hide "only necessary" behind a couple additional clicks.

If you don't respect me enough to give me a one-click "only necessary" button, then I'm going out of my way to give you as little data as possible. I already block ads and many trackers at my router.

Re: People who press on cookie banners anything except “agree” – why do you do that?

#82

The more aggressive and dark-UX the banner is, the more likely I am to spend time figuring out how to reject everything or to just close the tab right away. If it doesn't try to trick me into accepting things, I sometimes actually consider doing that. Why don't I just accept them all? No idea. Out of spite? Principles? Because I have too much time? Because my mind is too eager to get distracted with the popup? The fa…

I do right-click -> inspect element and then delete the pop-up element in the browser source viewer thing on chrome. Sometimes I have to find where it says “overflow” and set it to “overflow: visible” or something like that.

Remarkable how often that works.

Re: People who press on cookie banners anything except “agree” – why do you do that?

#83

>those in charge of the cookie banners really believe that they protect the interests of the user No, they're asking for consent to track because the EU demanded it. The easiest way to avoid having a banner on your site is to... just not have an analytics package on your site. They're aggressive because they don't want their data spigot turned off - hence the work-to-rule nonsense. You should not infer any benevolenc…

> The easiest way to avoid having a banner on your site is to... just not have an analytics package on your site.

What if there's back-end only analytics? Does that require a banner?

Re: People who press on cookie banners anything except “agree” – why do you do that?

#84
post #38

No need to click anything nor be tracked across the web! I Don't Care About Cookies [0] combined with Cookie AutoDelete [1] will hide all cookie consent popups, deny permission/not click if possible, and auto-accept if required to use the site. IDCAC alone will hide all popups, but in cases where you must click accept to browse it will do so invisibly & the cookies will linger. CAD solves this problem by purging ever…

Ive been using these two in combination for a little while and found it to be a significant improvement to my web experience. I also use the ekill[0] extension to remove annoying flashing elements or banners that wont go away.

[0] https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/ekill/

Re: People who press on cookie banners anything except “agree” – why do you do that?

#85

>those in charge of the cookie banners really believe that they protect the interests of the user No, they're asking for consent to track because the EU demanded it. The easiest way to avoid having a banner on your site is to... just not have an analytics package on your site. They're aggressive because they don't want their data spigot turned off - hence the work-to-rule nonsense. You should not infer any benevolenc…

At least in the EU most sites seem to automatically disable nonessential cookies if you don't click Accept. The American equivalents all force you to manually uncheck everything

> At least in the EU most sites seem to automatically disable nonessential cookies if you don't click Accept.

They have been well-advised by their lawyers. Anything else is just a bomb waiting to explode on you.

Re: People who press on cookie banners anything except “agree” – why do you do that?

#86
post #74
post #43

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yep - but to clarify, the cookies must really be NECESSARY - i.e. your site or app would be unusable without the feature they implement. A cookie that saves, for instance, a preference may not be considered essential but a "Functional Cookie" that adds extra features, because your app is usable without it, and then you do need permission for it.

Well, what does unusable mean? If my app offers a feature and the cookie is necessary for it to work, then it's essential. For example, a cart feature in an ecommerce app. Could you shop without a cart? Sure, still I would consider this cookie essential.

A cart does sound essential, but I guess it's up to a judge to decide. Perhaps you should implement a cookie-less "buy now" option to avoid needing to go before a judge.

Re: People who press on cookie banners anything except “agree” – why do you do that?

#87

>those in charge of the cookie banners really believe that they protect the interests of the user No, they're asking for consent to track because the EU demanded it. The easiest way to avoid having a banner on your site is to... just not have an analytics package on your site. They're aggressive because they don't want their data spigot turned off - hence the work-to-rule nonsense. You should not infer any benevolenc…

> The easiest way to avoid having a banner on your site is to... just not have an analytics package on your site. What if there's back-end only analytics? Does that require a banner?

If you're storing personal data, you need consent. A banner would be the least intrusive way to do that. (If your backend analytics don't store a cookie and don't store IPs, you may not be storing personal data to begin with.)

Re: People who press on cookie banners anything except “agree” – why do you do that?

#88

>those in charge of the cookie banners really believe that they protect the interests of the user No, they're asking for consent to track because the EU demanded it. The easiest way to avoid having a banner on your site is to... just not have an analytics package on your site. They're aggressive because they don't want their data spigot turned off - hence the work-to-rule nonsense. You should not infer any benevolenc…

> The easiest way to avoid having a banner on your site is to... just not have an analytics package on your site. What if there's back-end only analytics? Does that require a banner?

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Re: People who press on cookie banners anything except “agree” – why do you do that?

#89
post #64

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I use separate and fresh isolated firefox (running within podman container) to make fingerprinting a bit more difficult, it's still fingerprintable and probably this new fingerprint can be easily associated with the other but I like to imagine I make it more difficult to track me. Every little helps :)

Test it here: https://coveryourtracks.eff.org/ its amazing how unique your surfing is :)

I do wonder how accurate that is these days... Like it says that my user agent is significantly more unique than my monitor resolution, but Safari froze the user agent years ago.

Which means that they calculate there are 21x more people that have a $5k XDR display than use macOS Safari. Which seems... unlikely.

(anyway, tracking via IP address is a pretty accurate way to track across browsers and cookie resets, until you're behind a large NAT / proxy.)

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