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People who press on cookie banners anything except “agree” – why do you do that?

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Re: People who press on cookie banners anything except “agree” – why do you do that?

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Post by gizajob »

We respect your privacy! Please click agree to allow us to disrespect it.

I find it worth the trouble to find some way of disagreeing, either via "reject all", or clicking through the various radio-buttons offered and hitting save. It just seems worth the effort.

While I admire the efforts to limit data collection, these privacy/cookie popups are now a plague across the internet, a 'net that had done a brilliant job of getting rid of the first wave of popups in the past that I well remember, along with the relief when they had been banished by sensible browser manufacturers.

Even better than dealing with the privacy banner, I now often just hit "Back" and don't bother reading any articles that are only offered in exchange for collecting my data. It's a good filter, and time saver.

Re: People who press on cookie banners anything except “agree” – why do you do that?

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Post by thejackgoode »

seba_dos1 wrote: post #10

The more aggressive and dark-UX the banner is, the more likely I am to spend time figuring out how to reject everything or to just close the tab right away. If it doesn't try to trick me into accepting things, I sometimes actually consider doing that. Why don't I just accept them all? No idea. Out of spite? Principles? Because I have too much time? Because my mind is too eager to get distracted with the popup? The fa…

I do the same every time, except the most complex cases. Them I started to treat as paywalls -- just close the page, I wasn't so interested in this information anyway.

Re: People who press on cookie banners anything except “agree” – why do you do that?

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Post by lucraft »

shafyy wrote: post #17
loceng wrote: post #9

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Do you know if it is only third-party analytics being called that requires the prompt, or is setting any cookie for the website's use only requiring permission too?

Essential cookies that are necessary for the website to run do not need a permission from the user. For example, if you want to use cookies to save a selection or a language setting, you don't need to ask for permission.

Yep - but to clarify, the cookies must really be NECESSARY - i.e. your site or app would be unusable without the feature they implement.

A cookie that saves, for instance, a preference may not be considered essential but a "Functional Cookie" that adds extra features, because your app is usable without it, and then you do need permission for it.

Re: People who press on cookie banners anything except “agree” – why do you do that?

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Post by pempem »

binarymax wrote: post #18

As a consumer: I hate cookie banners. Ads are a menace to society and the banners are a manifestation of a toddler fighting against the rules by being a total nuisance. When there's something I need from a site, I will always go into the "manage" route and save the disabled cookies. I also use duckduckgo's privacy browser and burn my session often. As a provider: I don't use cookies. Here's my privacy policy: https:/…

Fully agree!

Thanks for including your own privacy policy. We're starting our own effort and our top line was "we won't make data or the user the product" and were trying to structure something as simple as your policy.

Re: People who press on cookie banners anything except “agree” – why do you do that?

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Post by jpeizer »

enlyth wrote: post #24
Aardwolf wrote: post #19

I use a plugin called "idontcareaboutcookies" to not see them because I don't want anything requiring interaction just to read stuff anywhere The internet used to have pop ups in the early 2000s, until popup blockers and then the Mozilla browser came. Then we had over a decade of no pop-ups. Then Europe decided to make the internet a worse place by requiring websites to put something that's essentially a pop-up (the…

Completely agree, every website I visit now has an annoying cookie overlay, which requires interaction from the user. Just let me read the damn article! I don't care if you track a single visit to this website which I will never come back to. I can protect my privacy myself if I want to, the EU is not helping at all because there are just dark patterns everywhere to make not accepting cookies difficult or inconvenien…

The thing about these cookies and the privacy is that those cookies are accessible by everyone. And some websites can place cross site cookies and continue tracking you in detail just because you clicked that one link on that one website.

One reason the EU did this is to bring to light the tracking habits of websites and give some power to the user. Much like Apple did with their do not track me button on IPhone. A lot of people opted to not be tracked but before just didn’t have the option or were oblivious to being tracked to begin with. And trust me being as secretive as possible for tracking is by design. It’s scary the amount of info a website can get from your browser.

Re: People who press on cookie banners anything except “agree” – why do you do that?

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Post by kradeelav »

fartcannon wrote: post #7

If they appear to be antagonistically designed, I find myself using ublock origins lightning bolt out of frustrated spite.

This, but with every pop up.

I suspect it's not legally binding when you never clicked agree or deny as well.

Re: People who press on cookie banners anything except “agree” – why do you do that?

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Post by boomlinde »

makepanic wrote: post #4

If I see a cookie banner on a website, I simply reopen it in an incognito window/tab and click whatever it wants. After I'm done reading I just close the website again.

This is a good time to remind people that these prompts not only concern cookies (or even all cookies), but any form of non-essential visitor tracking.

Some tracking methods will more effectively be able to track you across the boundaries of your "incognito" sessions.

For example, the modern browser has a huge API surface that makes accurate finger printing using tuples of individually only moderately narrowing information possible for as long as you allow it to execute JavaScript.

Re: People who press on cookie banners anything except “agree” – why do you do that?

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Post by disruptiveink »

I click "Disagree" by default, because why would you click agree by default?

If the site starts getting complicated due to my decision of clicking "Disagree", it signals to me the website doesn't really care about its users and is trying to make me go away. If I don't care much about the content, that's what I do.

Hopefully they're measuring their bounce rate, happy to vote with my feet in those cases.

Re: People who press on cookie banners anything except “agree” – why do you do that?

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Post by rhn_mk1 »

I never have the problem of the browser forgetting the cookie. I pay the price once: if I see a cookie banner, I inspect the source and add a CSS ruleto Stylus to remove it permanently. My Stylus config is backed up.

If, for some reason, it doesn't work, I close the page.

Why do I do this? To send a big fuck you the big businesses that want to vacuum up everyone's data without any reciprocity. I'm a very spiteful person, even if it's not easy to get on my wrong side.

There's no conscious decision needed to not be tracked. It's the status quo: by default, I'm not being tracked, and if a web page wants to change that, it should require a conscious decision. That's when I disable the hiding and think about clicking something on the banner.

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