Anyone have experience being remote cofounders in the very beginning of a startup?
In my case it’s someone I know well but we would be located in different cities. Would love to talk to anyone who has experience with this.
Tell HN: Recruiters are lying about remote positions
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#282I've learned to look for any ambiguous "weasel words" which nullify anything else they're attached to
me: how much does this job pay? them: well they hired a guy a few months ago at $X for a similar role or them: we strive to pay market! me: which for your company and this role now is... ?
me: can it be worked remotely 100%? them: yes probably, though I think they'd like you to come into office as much as possible me: brain melts
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#283This is very anecdotal, but I have a friend that interviewed at Google for a Remote SWE position - everything indicated that it was remote: the posting, the recruiter and the hiring manager. Now they announced RTO, his manager said: "We're excited to have you at the office" - he was really confused about this messaging, so they forced him to apply to work remotely (even if he had been hired as such) denied his applic…
I think that WFH has major downsides for collaboration, but I agree with the sentiment on this thread: If they say it's remote, it should be remote.
The easy thing to do, I would think, would be to demand in the hiring contract specific language guaranteeing 90%+ "remote" work.
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#284Earlier quoted context omitted.
At my last role, I got all the way to the "signing your hiring paperwork" to find out that vaccines were mandatory for all new hires. Seeing as that's 30% of the workforce or so who isn't, and this being a senior level position, and a year more after they were first available (meaning, anyone who wanted to get a vaccine - probably would have already)... you'd think they'd bring that up day one. I about flipped shit o…
People just assume anyone with a reasonable amount of common sense would be fine with it I imagine.
I don't think he's concerned with common sense. Or even vaccines.
His entire HN biography:
"i write for shock value, if you are shocked, thank you!"
Re: Tell HN: Recruiters are lying about remote positions
#285As a rule, recruiters lie about everything (there are good ones, but they seem to be the exception). Why not apply to jobs directly rather than going through recruiters?
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#286This sounds situational. I know someone personally that just landed a remote L5 position at Google. I have spoken with dev managers at Facebook who are hiring remote positions. I have spoken with dev managers at Amazon who are hiring remote positions. My guess is that was the least offensive way the recruiter could come up with to tell you you didn't pass the "bar". And the hiring committee is, afaik, another "bar".
This is very much, not, situational.
Going through the process now and has happened every time but 2 of the 10 or so I'm looking at.
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#287Apple did this. Initial recruiter said remote. Thankfully before interviews the hiring manager said not remote, I had done a challenge already though.
Facebook did this. Recruiter said remote. Changed their mind that the rotational position would need to be in person.
I'm very up front about being remote. I live in LA. A lot of companies don't have offices here. I have a nice life, property. I'm not a 24 year old who will upend their life for a job anymore. I like working from home. I like hanging out with my dog. I've lived in both Seattle and SF. I loathe SF and find Seattle incredibly depressing. I guess I've made it if I can say no to such opportunities.
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#288Earlier quoted context omitted.
Can confirmed the others that pointed out ex-Amazonians aren't pleasure to work with/for. Will avoid 10/10. I believe they were molded to survive the Amazon culture, unfortunately.
I found Amazon's culture - in particular the relentless obsession with solving actual customer needs - to be a perfect fit for my own engineering training from day one. I was not "molded" to fit it. As I see it, as an engineer I have expertise my customer can't truly know or measure. They really have to trust me. I earn that trust by taking on their problem as if it were my own. That's how I've worked my entire caree…
Anyone else smell astroturf?
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#289I’ve had a similar FAANG experience. They approached me, I made “no relocation” a non-negotiable condition from the start. We started talking, I did the marathon interview until late in the night (CET vs PT), put my formal application in their system, and after two months they said they were ready to make me an offer. On the same day, it turned out that they had not even bothered to look up the pay range for my country. Instead, I was asked for the fifth time if I were willing to move to California.
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G is losing candidates given how long the team matching process takes place.
I know multiple people (including myself) who have passed up opportunities at Google because of how long it takes for them to make a hiring decision. It's incredible how much value they must be leaving on the table. At some point, Google won't be the kind of place that people wait around for. Then they're really screwed.
It’s worse than that: the only people who hang around are the ones they probably wouldn’t want.
Their hiring model is theoretically a bell curve but when you cut off the top percentiles it severely affects the resulting performance (ie you failed to hire the 20% of ppl who were going to do 80% of the good work)