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Re: CalyxOS releases test builds for Fairphone 4, OnePlus 8T, and OnePlus 9

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Post by strcat »

dtx1 wrote: post #47
colordrops wrote: post #8

There's some sort of battle happening between the devs of Graphene and Calyx as we speak: https://twitter.com/GrapheneOS/status/1511593168667611139?s=...

To be fair, the lead dev of graphene os has been crying wolf about stuff like this for ages. For example https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dx7CZ-2Bajg Now, i really like Graphene OS. I consider my Pixel 3a with Graphene OS one of my, if not my most secure device. And the work they do is great. But man, Daniel Mackay would be well advised to reorganize how he interacts with his community and perhaps take some mental hea…

> To be fair, the lead dev of graphene os has been crying wolf about stuff like this for ages.

We aren't crying wolf. The abusive behavior has been ongoing since 2018. It wasn't happening in any significant way from 2014 through 2018. It started with the events which led to the creation of CalyxOS in 2018. You're linking to a highly dishonest and abusive video where one of the most prominent abusers tied to CalyxOS spends an hour lying through their teeth and engaging in these highly abusive personal attacks. It's a character assassination campaign which you're participating in yourself

> Now, i really like Graphene OS. I consider my Pixel 3a with Graphene OS one of my, if not my most secure device. And the work they do is great. But man, Daniel Mackay would be well advised to reorganize how he interacts with his community and perhaps take some mental health help, i don't think he's been in good place mentally for quite some time :(

You're participating in a highly abusive harassment and bullying campaign targeting me. You're spreading fabricated claims and libel about me and are participating in the attempt by Nicolas Merrill (Calyx leader), Techlore and cdesai (CalyxOS lead developer) to portray the abusive behavior which you are yourself demonstration as the delusions of someone mentally ill and crazy.

> I consider my Pixel 3a with Graphene OS one of my, if not my most secure device

A common tactic from the CalyxOS and Techlore folks engaging in this abusive behavior is to pretend to use GrapheneOS and to do exactly what you're doing. Whether or not you use GrapheneOS does not justify this abusive behavior.

Re: CalyxOS releases test builds for Fairphone 4, OnePlus 8T, and OnePlus 9

#62

Post by dtx1 »

strcat wrote: post #61
dtx1 wrote: post #47

Earlier quoted context omitted.

To be fair, the lead dev of graphene os has been crying wolf about stuff like this for ages. For example https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dx7CZ-2Bajg Now, i really like Graphene OS. I consider my Pixel 3a with Graphene OS one of my, if not my most secure device. And the work they do is great. But man, Daniel Mackay would be well advised to reorganize how he interacts with his community and perhaps take some mental hea…

> To be fair, the lead dev of graphene os has been crying wolf about stuff like this for ages. We aren't crying wolf. The abusive behavior has been ongoing since 2018. It wasn't happening in any significant way from 2014 through 2018. It started with the events which led to the creation of CalyxOS in 2018. You're linking to a highly dishonest and abusive video where one of the most prominent abusers tied to CalyxOS s…

> You're participating in a highly abusive harassment and bullying campaign targeting me. You're spreading fabricated claims and libel about me and are participating in the attempt by Nicolas Merrill (Calyx leader), Techlore and cdesai (CalyxOS lead developer) to portray the abusive behavior which you are yourself demonstration as the delusions of someone mentally ill and crazy.

I'm participating in nothing, I barely care about this issue. But these kinds of comments and reactions are guaranteed to cause another storm of abusive behavior against you. I know you think you are 100% right and justified but they are just using your predictable responses to trigger you again and again for their amusement.

Enjoy the vicious cycle bro, if you want to escape it, change your reactions, if you don't want to escape it, become their eternal lol cow. I'll leave you with the words of Capatain Picard: "It is possible to commit no mistakes and still lose."

[1] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t4A-Ml8YHyM

Re: CalyxOS releases test builds for Fairphone 4, OnePlus 8T, and OnePlus 9

#63

Post by mickotron »

tholdem wrote: post #46
mickotron wrote: post #39

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That is amazing. I have been a happy GOS user for years. Sadly, my Pixel 3a EOL is next month. I opted for an iPhone this time as they generally are supported for longer periods of time. Maybe my next phone will be a phone designed for GOS :)

You should probably get Pixel 6(pro) as they are supported almost as long as iOS on iPhones. Here is a Reddit post about it https://www.reddit.com/r/GrapheneOS/comments/souxzc/ My personal hunch is that this might have something to do with the GOS collaboration announcement: https://www.androidpolice.com/osom-ov1-exclusive/

I can’t deal with phones that physically big :( if pixels were the size of the mini I would have bought it.

Re: CalyxOS releases test builds for Fairphone 4, OnePlus 8T, and OnePlus 9

#64

Post by retSava »

sofixa wrote: post #40
retSava wrote: post #4

One thing that bugs me to no end with Android (don't know about iOS or various tweak android builds), is that it is sooooo hard to restrict basic things. I don't want random apps to start on bootup as an almost-invisible-service, instead I don't want anything to do with that app until I explicitly start it and use it. Revoking permissions should be supereasy - like remove any and all network ability (eg camera or fla…

It's not the most fluid UX ( but then again it's not something you need every day so it makes sense to have it a few levels deep), but in Android, since many versions ago, you can go to Settings - Apps - app - Allow/Disallow auto-launch, background running, etc. From the same place you can also revoke permissions, and some Android skins have views with all apps that have access to X and Y.

Hm, I can't find that. It's slightly different, eg Settings -> Apps and notifications, then either go into individual apps or "App Permissions".

The former allows me to force stop apps, which indicates to me that they are running in the background (phone is power cycled every night so they shouldn't be). Nowhere to be seen is any auto-launch or background running.

In App permissions, I get a list of permissions (eg Microphone, or Location) and clicking on any of those gets me a list of apps that include that permission, and I can revoke permissions there. Same there, no auto-launch/background.

I can go to Battery -> Battery optimisation -> app -> and pick eg "optimise" that restricts background usage, but I guess doesn't disable it.

I'm on a Oneplus 7 pro phone, which has android 11, OxygenOS 11.0.6.1...

Re: CalyxOS releases test builds for Fairphone 4, OnePlus 8T, and OnePlus 9

#65

Post by strcat »

dtx1 wrote: post #62
strcat wrote: post #61

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> To be fair, the lead dev of graphene os has been crying wolf about stuff like this for ages. We aren't crying wolf. The abusive behavior has been ongoing since 2018. It wasn't happening in any significant way from 2014 through 2018. It started with the events which led to the creation of CalyxOS in 2018. You're linking to a highly dishonest and abusive video where one of the most prominent abusers tied to CalyxOS s…

> You're participating in a highly abusive harassment and bullying campaign targeting me. You're spreading fabricated claims and libel about me and are participating in the attempt by Nicolas Merrill (Calyx leader), Techlore and cdesai (CalyxOS lead developer) to portray the abusive behavior which you are yourself demonstration as the delusions of someone mentally ill and crazy. I'm participating in nothing, I barely…

You're directly participating in the abusive behavior spreading a libellous video with a bunch of fabrications from a drama seeking sociopath on YouTube. You're even using Kiwi Farms language yourself. Try not being an asshole and targeting an open source developer with abuse because you think it's funny.

Re: CalyxOS releases test builds for Fairphone 4, OnePlus 8T, and OnePlus 9

#66

Post by bigwavedave »

cdesai wrote: post #34
colordrops wrote: post #8

There's some sort of battle happening between the devs of Graphene and Calyx as we speak: https://twitter.com/GrapheneOS/status/1511593168667611139?s=...

Sigh, always. The users have been banned, it's just that no mods were around at that time. We strictly don't allow any GrapheneOS talk at all on our channels due to this drama. I don't know what else to do. See: https://view.matrix.org/room/!aPqEsAdWuysydZNCic:matrix.org/... Not the thing one wants to wake up to, but what can you do. Disclosure: CalyxOS lead developer.

I just wanted to take a sec and say I've been using Calyx for eight or nine months now- sure, there was some pain that came in the first month from adjusting to a new phone OS (there always will be when being a Samsung lifer trying something new to me), but overall I've been very pleased with it. Thanks for all the work you and the team have put into it :).

Re: CalyxOS releases test builds for Fairphone 4, OnePlus 8T, and OnePlus 9

#67

Post by dtx1 »

strcat wrote: post #65
dtx1 wrote: post #62

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> You're participating in a highly abusive harassment and bullying campaign targeting me. You're spreading fabricated claims and libel about me and are participating in the attempt by Nicolas Merrill (Calyx leader), Techlore and cdesai (CalyxOS lead developer) to portray the abusive behavior which you are yourself demonstration as the delusions of someone mentally ill and crazy. I'm participating in nothing, I barely…

You're directly participating in the abusive behavior spreading a libellous video with a bunch of fabrications from a drama seeking sociopath on YouTube. You're even using Kiwi Farms language yourself. Try not being an asshole and targeting an open source developer with abuse because you think it's funny.

Sigh, and here is the problem. I literally do not know who or what "Kiwi Farms" is, if im using "their language" it's not on purpose.

Again, I'm not saying everyone else is the good guy and you are the bad guy, what i'm trying to say is that these kinds of responses and threads do not make this continuing issue either disappear or less likely in the future.

If your goal is to make Graphene OS more well known through continuing drama, you are successful and sure got me. Should your goal be to reduce further incidents like this, you will not be able to change other people, you can only change your responses to them.

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