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CalyxOS releases test builds for Fairphone 4, OnePlus 8T, and OnePlus 9

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Re: CalyxOS releases test builds for Fairphone 4, OnePlus 8T, and OnePlus 9

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Post by [deleted] »

strcat wrote: post #37
cdesai wrote: post #34

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Sigh, always. The users have been banned, it's just that no mods were around at that time. We strictly don't allow any GrapheneOS talk at all on our channels due to this drama. I don't know what else to do. See: https://view.matrix.org/room/!aPqEsAdWuysydZNCic:matrix.org/... Not the thing one wants to wake up to, but what can you do. Disclosure: CalyxOS lead developer.

You're claiming no mods were around when Nicolas Merrill was right there in the middle of the conversation? It's blatantly not true. Screenshot is here for everyone to see: https://twitter.com/DanielMicay/status/1511639628637511681 You shouldn't lie about things that are so easily disproven. The main thing you disallow in your rooms are people defending GrapheneOS against your misinformation and libel. Those are the…

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Re: CalyxOS releases test builds for Fairphone 4, OnePlus 8T, and OnePlus 9

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Post by h4waii »

postpawl wrote: post #2

Does anyone prefer CalyxOS over GrapheneOS or LineageOS?

I went through building LineageOS for my devices for years, then switched to Pixel + GrapheneOS and have been extremely happy with my decision.

Unfortunately as you can see from these posts, there's a lot of in-fighting between developers and users, it's detrimental to everyone involved and drives away users, supporters, and other developers who would contribute but don't want to get involved in it.

Regardless of all the garbage surrounding these projects, the technical work behind GrapheneOS speaks for itself and is how I ended up selecting it vs the other options.

Re: CalyxOS releases test builds for Fairphone 4, OnePlus 8T, and OnePlus 9

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Post by flexagoon »

strcat wrote: post #28
flexagoon wrote: post #17

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's definitely better than Lineage, since Lineage is the least private and secure out of all "degoogled" ROMs. However, it isn't as good as Graphene.

CalyxOS recently went almost 4 months without shipping Chromium (including WebView) and Android security updates. CalyxOS is not "degoogled" and uses multiple Google services by default without an opt-out. Look at their documentation. It also has privileged Google service integration enabled by default. If using Google services is considered "degoogled", what does it mean? Not having Google Play as part of the OS? Th…

Yes, I'm aware that Calyx isn't degoogled and neither is Lineage, that's why I wrote "degoogled" in quotation marks. And I also know about lack of security updates in Calyx, but it's still better than Lineage lol

Re: CalyxOS releases test builds for Fairphone 4, OnePlus 8T, and OnePlus 9

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Post by KSPAtlas »

cdesai wrote: post #34
colordrops wrote: post #8

There's some sort of battle happening between the devs of Graphene and Calyx as we speak: https://twitter.com/GrapheneOS/status/1511593168667611139?s=...

Sigh, always. The users have been banned, it's just that no mods were around at that time. We strictly don't allow any GrapheneOS talk at all on our channels due to this drama. I don't know what else to do. See: https://view.matrix.org/room/!aPqEsAdWuysydZNCic:matrix.org/... Not the thing one wants to wake up to, but what can you do. Disclosure: CalyxOS lead developer.

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Re: CalyxOS releases test builds for Fairphone 4, OnePlus 8T, and OnePlus 9

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Post by tholdem »

mickotron wrote: post #39
tholdem wrote: post #7

Earlier quoted context omitted.

GrapheneOS is collaborating with a hw vendor to create a device that can run GOS and which has similar hw to current Pixel devices. https://twitter.com/GrapheneOS/status/1490518600339308544

That is amazing. I have been a happy GOS user for years. Sadly, my Pixel 3a EOL is next month. I opted for an iPhone this time as they generally are supported for longer periods of time. Maybe my next phone will be a phone designed for GOS :)

You should probably get Pixel 6(pro) as they are supported almost as long as iOS on iPhones. Here is a Reddit post about it https://www.reddit.com/r/GrapheneOS/comments/souxzc/

My personal hunch is that this might have something to do with the GOS collaboration announcement: https://www.androidpolice.com/osom-ov1-exclusive/

Re: CalyxOS releases test builds for Fairphone 4, OnePlus 8T, and OnePlus 9

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Post by dtx1 »

colordrops wrote: post #8

There's some sort of battle happening between the devs of Graphene and Calyx as we speak: https://twitter.com/GrapheneOS/status/1511593168667611139?s=...

To be fair, the lead dev of graphene os has been crying wolf about stuff like this for ages. For example https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dx7CZ-2Bajg

Now, i really like Graphene OS. I consider my Pixel 3a with Graphene OS one of my, if not my most secure device. And the work they do is great. But man, Daniel Mackay would be well advised to reorganize how he interacts with his community and perhaps take some mental health help, i don't think he's been in good place mentally for quite some time :(

Re: CalyxOS releases test builds for Fairphone 4, OnePlus 8T, and OnePlus 9

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Post by _emacsomancer_ »

h4waii wrote: post #42
postpawl wrote: post #2

Does anyone prefer CalyxOS over GrapheneOS or LineageOS?

I went through building LineageOS for my devices for years, then switched to Pixel + GrapheneOS and have been extremely happy with my decision. Unfortunately as you can see from these posts, there's a lot of in-fighting between developers and users, it's detrimental to everyone involved and drives away users, supporters, and other developers who would contribute but don't want to get involved in it. Regardless of all…

Graphene is indeed a lot less fiddly than dealing with microg etc. Much easier to use (and install - oh the headache that is dealing with firmware updates my Samsung tablet running Lineage).

Re: CalyxOS releases test builds for Fairphone 4, OnePlus 8T, and OnePlus 9

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Post by omegacharlie »

Interesting, but one issue with the monoculture of Android devices that impacts a non-insignificant amount of people is the fact 'top-tier' devices such as the Google Pixels that have reliable firmware support or security also have OLED displays with aggressive PWM flickering. That makes these devices a non-starter for many people with headache or some seizure disorders.

I really wish Google and other OEMs would do something about this at some point.

Re: CalyxOS releases test builds for Fairphone 4, OnePlus 8T, and OnePlus 9

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Post by joemazerino »

colordrops wrote: post #8

There's some sort of battle happening between the devs of Graphene and Calyx as we speak: https://twitter.com/GrapheneOS/status/1511593168667611139?s=...

A random joining a channel and exclaiming victory over a raid does not make Nick or CalyxOS guilty of anything. This looks more like subterfuge from the GrapheneOS side to place blame on Calyx.

CalyxOS is a victim of bullying here. I have seen both sides discuss and I have never seen Nick or cdesai tell the community to attack GrapheneOS.

Look at the new HN accounts and how strcat (Daniel Micay) responds in this thread. It is unprofessional at best, malevolent at worse.

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