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Re: Tell HN: My kid's school installed spyware and I can't remove it

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post #55

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You are completely failing to grasp the level of tyranny here. Schools these days often will not accept non-Chromebook devices.

how can they enforce that as a public school?

Same way they dictate which graphing calculator you buy?

Re: Tell HN: My kid's school installed spyware and I can't remove it

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post #13

Have you tried to see if the Small Claims Court would work? https://ag.state.il.us/consumers/smlclaims.html Get the cost of the Chromebook, some money for your time, and then donate the Chromebook to the school since its deadweight at this point. My guess is that no one from Dept. of ed will show up and you'll get a summary judgment.

Unless someone from HN is mediating, it seems pretty unlikely that there will be an award for the value of the computer in small claims court.

Re: Tell HN: My kid's school installed spyware and I can't remove it

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post #57

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Could it possibly be impossible to enter developer mode? If so, could it be possible to somehow flip the write protect bit "by hand"?

Every Chromebook model I've ever had has had a physical switch or screw that can be removed/toggled somewhere on the motherboard to unset the write-protect bit. e.g. https://joshuawoehlke.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/07/dell-31...

Oops, I had forgotten about that. I was doing a bit of ...research a while back to apply to my own school machine.

Re: Tell HN: My kid's school installed spyware and I can't remove it

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

You are completely failing to grasp the level of tyranny here. Schools these days often will not accept non-Chromebook devices.

I'm curious on how they enforce that

Presumably, the same way they enforce any other supply requirements.

Re: Tell HN: My kid's school installed spyware and I can't remove it

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Powerwash/factory reset it and don’t sign into the school account. Ask for the school to provide a device.

Yea I graduated from Chicago Public Schools and they gave out chromebooks starting in 8th grade. I think that was the first generation of them so maybe CPS get some deal, but through high school the chromebook system only seemed to expand. I imagine it's possible for OP to get one from school.

Re: Tell HN: My kid's school installed spyware and I can't remove it

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post #10

Why did you buy him the Chromebook versus the district?

District chromebooks are for in-school use only. You can't take them home. This is for homework.

Chicago Public Schools gave me a chromebook to do homework on. It was a piece of trash computer that they probably got for free, but I could certainly take it home and use google suite for homework.

Re: Tell HN: My kid's school installed spyware and I can't remove it

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post #45

> I did a full factory reset, signed in to his account again, and now the system is once again locked down. That’s by design though isn’t it? You logged in with a managed account and the policy was applied again? The account is his school account right? That’s pretty much how Chrome OS works. This might just be a good lesson that you want to maintain device / role boundaries.

A gaping security hole is fine if it’s been introduced on purpose?

Re: Tell HN: My kid's school installed spyware and I can't remove it

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post #67
post #45

> I did a full factory reset, signed in to his account again, and now the system is once again locked down. That’s by design though isn’t it? You logged in with a managed account and the policy was applied again? The account is his school account right? That’s pretty much how Chrome OS works. This might just be a good lesson that you want to maintain device / role boundaries.

A gaping security hole is fine if it’s been introduced on purpose?

> A gaping security hole

What is that?

Re: Tell HN: My kid's school installed spyware and I can't remove it

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related support ticket from someone trying to log into device w/ work account without inheriting workplace MDM policy https://support.google.com/chromebook/thread/117916330/how-t... > Even if the Chromebook is your private device and your owner account is your private @gmail.com account, once you sign in with a managed account, even using a separate profile, the managed account polices become active. > This is NOT a…

Hmm.

I’m not super familiar with ChromeOS’s MDM stuff… but I wonder what would happen if someone were to log in to two separate managed accounts, for two separate organizations, with conflicting requirements?

Re: Tell HN: My kid's school installed spyware and I can't remove it

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woof also goguardian has a prediction model for the 'active planning' phase of suicide which monitors all text + web activity

https://www.goguardian.com/admin

good in theory I guess, but 1) is it EBM and 2) not sure this plays well post CTL / loris snafu

their privacy policy is nonsense https://www.goguardian.com/privacy-information, they don't sell 'private student information' but this is shrunk to be just PII. no details about non-PII categories of data

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