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Kaspersky is declared a US national security threat and is banned by the FCC

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Post by jwatt »

libraryatnight wrote: post #409
jwatt wrote: post #325

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The original Wired links are: https://www.wired.com/2012/07/ff-kaspersky/ https://www.wired.com/2012/07/kaspersky-indy/

So odd I thought I tried this and got an "Oops" I must have missed something - thank you!

I think they used underscores in their links originally and then changed them to dashes at some later date but broke things. (You can see this in the second article which links to the first using an underscore, but the redirects they've put in place are broken.)

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Post by diedyesterday »

Trusting a security firm is a chain of custody problem, which ultimately goes down to where are the premises and what is the legal and governmental environment. If this last stop cannot be trusted, then I guess it break the deal for some sensitive clients, understandably.

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Post by edmundsauto »

u801e wrote: post #415
JabavuAdams wrote: post #124

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The problem is: how do you run a business that has offices and physical assets in Russia, without being at least partially beholden to the Russian government? They have demonstrated that they are not shy about using gangster tactics. One could say that the same is true in the US, but I believe the degree matters. Although the US government and intelligence agencies will and do try to overreach, there is a strong lega…

> The problem is: how do you run a business that has offices and physical assets in Russia, without being at least partially beholden to the Russian government? The same could be said for businesses that have offices and physical assets in the US.

The argument is the US system is more accountable, fair, and able to be resisted. Not perfect by any means, but I see a lot of daylight between the two governments.

Re: Kaspersky is declared a US national security threat and is banned by the FCC

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Post by sjmm1989 »

srhngpr wrote: post #160
sjmm1989 wrote: post #155

So... let's say a person still wanted to use an Antivirus product anyways, despite not really trusting them due to reasons like this article here; or anything you can say about Norton, etc, etc. What would you all suggest? Aside from McAfee, Norton and of course Kaspersky. I'm all ears. Some helpful hints though might be: 1. I don't want it giving me pop-ups constantly to remind me of a sale they are having. 2. It ca…

Windows Defender. See: https://0ut3r.space/2022/03/06/windows-defender/ and recent discussion on HN: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=30580444

Yeah so, I normally am in the same camp. If I have windows running, it's likely just running defender and whatever other things I have personally done to the system to 'harden' it. (Lol... hardening windows... right.)

Anyways.

The point to my question was to find those few helpful anti-viruses and other programs that might help fill the spots that WD might not. Ya feel me?

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Post by sjmm1989 »

rntksi wrote: post #184
sjmm1989 wrote: post #155

So... let's say a person still wanted to use an Antivirus product anyways, despite not really trusting them due to reasons like this article here; or anything you can say about Norton, etc, etc. What would you all suggest? Aside from McAfee, Norton and of course Kaspersky. I'm all ears. Some helpful hints though might be: 1. I don't want it giving me pop-ups constantly to remind me of a sale they are having. 2. It ca…

We've been running ESET Nod32 for over a decade. Its strength is that it uses very low memory and CPU cycles due to the way it is built. It ticks all the boxes you've given above.

I've considered Eset a few times before. Never went all the way yet. Thank you.

Anything in particular you want to add about it that might be a good tip or so? Something that only someone who's been using it for a while will know, kind of thing.

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Post by sjmm1989 »

LeoPanthera wrote: post #263
sjmm1989 wrote: post #155

So... let's say a person still wanted to use an Antivirus product anyways, despite not really trusting them due to reasons like this article here; or anything you can say about Norton, etc, etc. What would you all suggest? Aside from McAfee, Norton and of course Kaspersky. I'm all ears. Some helpful hints though might be: 1. I don't want it giving me pop-ups constantly to remind me of a sale they are having. 2. It ca…

For home use, Sophos Home: https://home.sophos.com/en-us (Disclosure: I used to work for Sophos, I no longer do.) It's a good mix of traditional antivirus, antimalware, and privacy tools. It's also available for Macs.

Thanks for the input. After having a look at some sites that compare the two's products on the consumer and business level; I think I am going to keep both available for customers in some fashion. Some might prefer one over the other, but I do have to say...

Eset seems to have more features, but they both trade blows on effectiveness according to some graphs. So I think they might be good to use with each other in tandem if they will play nice.

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Post by sjmm1989 »

Hamuko wrote: post #159
sjmm1989 wrote: post #155

So... let's say a person still wanted to use an Antivirus product anyways, despite not really trusting them due to reasons like this article here; or anything you can say about Norton, etc, etc. What would you all suggest? Aside from McAfee, Norton and of course Kaspersky. I'm all ears. Some helpful hints though might be: 1. I don't want it giving me pop-ups constantly to remind me of a sale they are having. 2. It ca…

At least the business version of F-Secure is not annoying the living daylights out of me, although I have the more onerous securities turned off (like the browser protection).

>OUTSIDE SURVEILLANCE ALLIANCES >Based outside Russia, China, USA and other 14 Eyes surveillance countries.

Hmmm. Interesting. Thanks.

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Post by sjmm1989 »

stjohnswarts wrote: post #203
sjmm1989 wrote: post #155

So... let's say a person still wanted to use an Antivirus product anyways, despite not really trusting them due to reasons like this article here; or anything you can say about Norton, etc, etc. What would you all suggest? Aside from McAfee, Norton and of course Kaspersky. I'm all ears. Some helpful hints though might be: 1. I don't want it giving me pop-ups constantly to remind me of a sale they are having. 2. It ca…

Just use what comes with microsoft. If you want another layer of scanning then install Malwarebytes. Those two should be plenty for anybody. Also set their DNS to use something that blocks known malware sites (quad 9 is what I use).

Quad 9 is useful, but I found some websites that should work ended up not working anymore or as well. Kind of annoying. But yeah, Malwarebytes is one I haven't thought about for a while. Last I saw one of their things on a computer I was fixing was also one of the last times I saw CCcleaner on a computer as well.

But yeah, windows defender IS usually good enough.

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Post by fatnoah »

null_deref wrote: post #395
fatnoah wrote: post #185

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Current AV software bloatware is a scourge on the world. I spent about 30 minutes this weekend helping my sister-in-law debug a slow internet. My observations were that attempting to do anything resulted in about a 5-10 second pause, and general sluggish response when trying to anything online. I disabled anti-virus, etc. and it was still slow. I tried Edge and everything was super-fast. Digging further, the issue wa…

How can a software this bad hit production? I had a good laugh

It was brutal. I first suspected terrible Wi-Fi, or underpowered computer, but everything worked great in Edge and the computer is a 3.2GHz i7 w/12GB RAM.

I think my favorite part of it is that the issue itself of blocking everything for network calls is like one of the first things I learned about Windows programming in the early 2000's.

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Post by jjeaff »

PoignardAzur wrote: post #419
jjeaff wrote: post #333

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International law isn't really a thing if it has no teeth. I would be more worried about the US breaking its own laws. Which they of course do, on occasion. But there is a lot of pushback and not too much fear of reprisal if you call them out and fight them on it. For example, we are in the process of appointing a supreme court justice that, during her career, has fought against US Government overeach and represented…

My point isn't "the US is bad because it doesn't respect international law". My point is that the US is willing to go pretty damn far to put some high-profile dissidents in a hole and throw away the key, and there is very little pushback both internally and internationally, which kind of undercuts the whole "the US government would hesitate to do X because whistleblowers would stop them" argument.

Are you talking about Snowden? Because that is one person and he isn't in a whole. They haven't even caught him.

Another I can think of is Chelsea Manning who ended up getting a presidential commutation of sentence.

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