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Re: Google terminated our Developer Account, says it is “associated”

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Depends on the service. For example, if proton bans me I can move my email to a different provider because I own my domain. In case of Obsidian, it's an offline app that uses Markdown, so I can easily migrate to a different note-taking software for any reason. Your backup note is on point; I highly recommend everyone to do a Google Takeout every few months (or at least years!!). If you've never done one, like most Go…

Notice that Google Takeout is broken with regards to non-UTF8 email encodings (for some of you who archive old emails). I noticed it when coding a small tool https://github.com/karteum/gmvaultdb to (among other things) import the mbox from Takeout into an sqlite DB : Google performs some encoding conversions that permanently break all non-ascii characters in non-UTF8 emails (they are all replaced by 0xEFBFBD). In ord…

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Re: Google terminated our Developer Account, says it is “associated”

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> Google should not have the power I can't help but notice the "they're a private company, so they can do whatever they want" folks that pop up whenever somebody's account gets banned for political views are strangely silent right now...

Maybe people getting banned from twitter for their political views is a bit different from people getting banned from their work means because the son of an ex-coworker abused youtube in some way?

This is the exact reason stuff like what Google is doing has gone unchallenged. Any attempt to say "Google needs to put more effort into avoiding false positives with content moderation" inevitably gets met with "Yes, I agree. The two of us both believe that I should be allowed to send death threats and dox random minorities without any criticism of my behavior."

Re: Google terminated our Developer Account, says it is “associated”

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Or just don't link personal and company accounts . Even these issues aside , there are so many reasons to keep them separate and unrelated. That's not unique to Google but goes for GitHub, AWS, and whatever else. Use company e-mail addresses to register for everything. Enforce it for your employees. This is in the interest of both the company and the employee. Yes, the summer intern gets a corp email too, which at mi…

> just don't link personal and company accounts Easier said than done, in my experience. Years ago I had to log into my Company's Play account on my computer for some specific reason, one time, and more than a year after that, my daughter purchased a game on my android phone and the CEO sent me a message saying "FYI, we just paid $3 for a princess coloring book app, please enjoy it with our compliments but please del…

Guess: Logged in using Chrome? IIRC Chrome has specific functionality regarding retaining and linking Google account information. This is how you get the account-selector.

As mentioned in a sibling comment: Utilize browser profiles (Chromium-based/Firefox) or Multi-Account Containers (Firefox).

Re: Google terminated our Developer Account, says it is “associated”

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Even if Google were paying support engineers $100/hr, in what universe is the average developer going to need 50 hours of support per year? In reality, it's at most averaging to 2 hours, and typically only in situations where Google messed up and should really be fixing it for free anyway, because it was their mistake. So, at most, it would be a labor cost of $300/yr including benefits and taxes, and more realistical…

They charge a one time fee of $25 to get a developer account. They provide full SDK / tooling and other resources for that $25 fee. I don't know what universe android app developers are living in, this is basically "free" for most significant businesses. For that $25, you are NOT going to get white glove support / treatment. Not happening.

You are conveniently ignoring that developers create apps which are sold in Google's marketplace, of which Google takes a minimum of 15%. They are making more per developer than $25. Please take your inflammatory nonsense elsewhere.

Re: Google terminated our Developer Account, says it is “associated”

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There’s a difference between banning an app and banning an account.

Are you suggesting that Google ban all current apps in their account? Google has no idea which apps 'H.' contributed to. Or whether 'H.' still has a relationship with Raya Games. If 'H.' is a malicious developer, then all apps that were extant while 'H.' was associated with Raya should be considered suspect. Google (and its user base) have no idea what apps 'H.' touched. The very least Google should do is ban all app…

That’s whole another sentence dude.

Re: Google terminated our Developer Account, says it is “associated”

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I had a scare last year where Google supposedly gave me 30 days before they would shut off my Google account of 20yrs. Family photos, youtube videos, 20yrs of email, not to mention the treasure trove of personal documents on GDrive. It took two weeks to duplicate the content and back it up elsewhere. This is a paid tier Google account and I've yet to get an explanation on why this happened. It appears to be because o…

After reading so many posts like this, I decided to bite the bullet and start moving off-Google. Funny thing is, ProtonMail and Obsidian are much better than Gmail and Keep anyway. I'm still forced to use Google stuff here and there but I'm no longer dependant on them, and coincidentally I've been sleeping much better recently.

How is ProtonMail better than Gmail in your opinion? I use ProtonMail but find the UI meh, the spam filter worse, and the calendar bad (not to mention it's costing me $). I like the privacy aspect of course, which is what drew me to it in the first place.

Re: Google terminated our Developer Account, says it is “associated”

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Everyone here is commenting about overautomation, but this isn't an overautomation problem. It's a secondary sanctions problem. The developer isn't being banned for breaking Google's rules, he's being banned for having hired someone else who later broke those rules; and then that ban was transitively applied to their personal account as well. This is beyond the pale. Google should not have the power to decide who you…

I had a scare last year where Google supposedly gave me 30 days before they would shut off my Google account of 20yrs. Family photos, youtube videos, 20yrs of email, not to mention the treasure trove of personal documents on GDrive. It took two weeks to duplicate the content and back it up elsewhere. This is a paid tier Google account and I've yet to get an explanation on why this happened. It appears to be because o…

What did you use to backup your google photos?

Re: Google terminated our Developer Account, says it is “associated”

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So how do you know those services don't pull the same stunt? I use various google services, and do a monthly backup of everything. I guess that's a sane thing to do with any service, even self hosted ones.

> So how do you know those services don't pull the same stunt? It's a questions of eggs per basket. Google wants you to keep everything in their one basket, and the result is that if they arbitrarily terminate your account, you lose everything . If they give you 30 days like OP, you have to remember all the different places you need to download content from. If you split your services up, a sudden termination only af…

Everything has benefits and drawbacks of course. It's true that you can minimize the impact of one service pulling this stunt.

However, I don't agree with "remember all the different places you need to download content from". Google does this with Takeout, so I can have 1 backup of most of my things. When using different services, I need to have various backups.

Reason is: I don't depend on services giving me 30 days. I assume they can block access on the spot.

Re: Google terminated our Developer Account, says it is “associated”

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Depends on the service. For example, if proton bans me I can move my email to a different provider because I own my domain. In case of Obsidian, it's an offline app that uses Markdown, so I can easily migrate to a different note-taking software for any reason. Your backup note is on point; I highly recommend everyone to do a Google Takeout every few months (or at least years!!). If you've never done one, like most Go…

If your domain registar bans you, you’ll lose your email all the same. “GoDaddy has two major problems. First, their customer service (…). Second, if there are accusations made against you, they will shut you down and side with your accuser more often than not.“ https://www.warriorforum.com/main-internet-marketing-discuss...

Domain registrars are indeed a single point of failure :(. Do you recommend something here? Because I haven't found a proper solution myself.

Re: Google terminated our Developer Account, says it is “associated”

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So how do you know those services don't pull the same stunt? I use various google services, and do a monthly backup of everything. I guess that's a sane thing to do with any service, even self hosted ones.

Proton, or fastmail, or any number of other mail providers for that matter, don't control half of the internet. They don't associate personal accounts with professional accounts, and they can't block necessary services at a whim.

> they can't block necessary services at a whim

why not?

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