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Post by andrekandre »

belter wrote: post #66
sccxy wrote: post #49

Always use different accounts for every Google Service. One "bad" Youtube comment can ban your Gmail account.

Or they will use your IP, say it was from the same device, or different IP same geo location...be afraid...be very afraid. "...Youtube Account Suspended" - "...All i do is watch videos and subscribe to my favorite youtube channels while sitting on the toilet!... I have no idea what to do." https://support.google.com/youtube/thread/21108892/youtube-a...

  "I am not a Google or YouTube employee - Product Experts are volunteers"
wow, i must live under a rock, but is this how google does "support"... by volunteers?

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Post by ivanche »

otterley wrote: post #273

OP: You don't happen to be an Iranian national, do you? Google's relationship with Iranians is... complicated, and likely influenced by the U.S.'s sanctions regime with respect to Iran and some of its nationals.

Hah, it seems you’re right! This is OPs LinkedIn profile https://www.linkedin.com/in/nadalizadeh/

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Post by Topgamer7 »

hbn wrote: post #196
duxup wrote: post #121

I know a group of devs collaborating on a side project. Same thing happened to them. They created a new developer account for this project, worked together on it, and the app vanished off the store and dev account terminated, along with one of the developer's personal developer account. They assumed, but don't know, it was because the developer who had his personal account suspended as well once worked for a company…

It's the new virus! Your account was terminated because you know a guy who knows a guy who worked at a company whose CEO is the cousin of a guy who broke Google ToS. 6 degrees of termination.

> 6 degrees of termination.

I died.

This should be the term.

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Post by duped »

Forgeties79 wrote: post #186
duped wrote: post #155

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You can sue them, which is the normal recourse for disagreements between companies. Usually that starts with a letter requesting documents from your lawyers to theirs

“Just sue Twitter” is one of the more head-scratching comments I’ve read lately.

People sue big companies over bullshit all the time, sometimes it works and sometimes it doesn't. I called a lawyer and they threatened my bank with litigation a year ago, and the bank remedied their mistake (this is a company on par with Twitter).

It's more head scratching to me that people think it's going to be easier to pass legislation than to go through the existing legal channels when a company's policies are causing damages. You sue them.

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Post by JacobThreeThree »

ocdtrekkie wrote: post #267
Closi wrote: post #207

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Everyone here is commenting about overautomation, but this isn't an overautomation problem. It's a secondary sanctions problem. It's both. When you work with tech companies this kind of overautomation is rife. When you work with any other type of business they give you an account manager and you manage these issues openly together with a relationship. If there was a human at Google who picked up the phone and worke…

Google is much more profitable than your bank, and this is why. The reason tech companies sit all at the top of most valuable companies is essentially because they've automated away a ton of tasks which normally require hiring a lot of employees. The only way to fix this is to legally require it, because nobody's going to stop the profit train by themselves.

>because they've automated away a ton of tasks which normally require hiring a lot of employees

Or they've simply removed those tasks under the rubric of automation.

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Post by brightball »

throwuxiytayq wrote: post #234
TuringNYC wrote: post #214

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I had a scare last year where Google supposedly gave me 30 days before they would shut off my Google account of 20yrs. Family photos, youtube videos, 20yrs of email, not to mention the treasure trove of personal documents on GDrive. It took two weeks to duplicate the content and back it up elsewhere. This is a paid tier Google account and I've yet to get an explanation on why this happened. It appears to be because o…

After reading so many posts like this, I decided to bite the bullet and start moving off-Google. Funny thing is, ProtonMail and Obsidian are much better than Gmail and Keep anyway. I'm still forced to use Google stuff here and there but I'm no longer dependant on them, and coincidentally I've been sleeping much better recently.

I’m happy with Proton right now too. Really just need a mobile app for the calendar and I’ll be all set.

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Post by 3np »

Reason077 wrote: post #298
3np wrote: post #268

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Or just don't link personal and company accounts . Even these issues aside , there are so many reasons to keep them separate and unrelated. That's not unique to Google but goes for GitHub, AWS, and whatever else. Use company e-mail addresses to register for everything. Enforce it for your employees. This is in the interest of both the company and the employee. Yes, the summer intern gets a corp email too, which at mi…

It sounds like Google have other means to establish links between accounts, though? An employee using their personal account and a company account from the same browser is likely to result in a "link" or association being established between those accounts.

From what's written here, it's not clear if such links have been used for these terminations.

But yes, my point of not mixing accounts does go that far - if you don't have separate hardware, at least use separate browsers or browser profiles.

Don't put the cookies in the same jar.

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Post by JacobThreeThree »

Reason077 wrote: post #298
3np wrote: post #268

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Or just don't link personal and company accounts . Even these issues aside , there are so many reasons to keep them separate and unrelated. That's not unique to Google but goes for GitHub, AWS, and whatever else. Use company e-mail addresses to register for everything. Enforce it for your employees. This is in the interest of both the company and the employee. Yes, the summer intern gets a corp email too, which at mi…

It sounds like Google have other means to establish links between accounts, though? An employee using their personal account and a company account from the same browser is likely to result in a "link" or association being established between those accounts.

Most likely yes, but as usual it's a black box, we don't really know how it works.

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Post by josephcsible »

at_a_remove wrote: post #294

I am struggling to remember the name of this sci-fi book I had read about twenty-five years ago. Someone encounters a civilization where things are going pretty darned well for the humans, and there are these spider-aliens who make sure that the trains are running on time. It's just that a small portion of the population is abducted by the spider-aliens, for a long period of agonizing torture before being consumed. E…

Not the same book, but a similar story is The Ones Who Walk Away from Omelas.

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Post by tempnow987 »

Tagbert wrote: post #292
tempnow987 wrote: post #228

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My question, is there some statistical support for this? I scummy company employees tend to trend towards scummy stuff? No doubt lots of false positives, but folks keep on seeing this as a "mistake" google is making, and google may not think this type of associative banning is actually a mistake.

But Google is not open about the reason and if you can get the attention of their internal support people (if you have the right kind of account) they don’t seem to know why this was done either. If Google were explicit about the nature of the problem and were to provide an open process to contest and address the accusation that would help a lot. As it is, they are opaque and non-responsive. It’s an abusive relations…

Here it seems pretty clear.

They had this developer associated with their accounts still.

This developer did bad things.

Google banned this developer and businesses using this developer?

What more is needed to understand what happened?

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