is the W visa bill passed or it isn't?
America COMPETES Act of 2022 passed House and Senate
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Re: America COMPETES Act of 2022 passed House and Senate
#122is the w visa passed or not?
Re: America COMPETES Act of 2022 passed House and Senate
#123This is definitely needed, but the government needs to take some ownership stake in companies that these funds are being distributed to. The financial success of the effort needs to be shared with the general public, not just used to make some billionaires richer.
Definitely not an ownership stake, but perhaps a royalty on equity. For every dollar in equity sold or transacted the government receives a royalty payment of some percentage.
Re: America COMPETES Act of 2022 passed House and Senate
#124Per [1], the House version contains important immigration provisions. 1) The bill would create a new category of non-immigrant visa called the W visa for owners (W-1) or essential employees (W-2) of start-up companies and their dependent family members (W-3). 2) The bill would exempt applicants holding a PhD in a STEM field from the annual per-country green card limits, enabling them to quickly apply for permanent re…
> 2) The bill would exempt applicants holding a PhD in a STEM field from the annual per-country green card limits
I wonder if low-quality offshore post-hole-digger diploma mills can create a loophole for this requirement.
Re: America COMPETES Act of 2022 passed House and Senate
#125Earlier quoted context omitted.
Perhaps. But the other side of the coin is that keeping them here serves as a brain drain to their home country. If less and less are there to elevate those countries then what? We spend billions sending aid instead? Certainly, there has to be consequences to the countries losing minds & bodies.
There’s huge costs particularly to English speaking developed countries like India and Bangladesh.
Exactly! But meanwhile the narrative in the USA is "we're so benevolent for accepting the world's best & brightest." The USA gets stronger. The sources of that strength weaker. It's a broken idea.
Re: America COMPETES Act of 2022 passed House and Senate
#126Slightly more detailed explanation (from House Majority Leader Steny Hoyer's website, use whatever amount of grains of salt you'd like): * The America COMPETES Act authorizes the establishment of the Rebuilding Economies and Creating Opportunities for More People to Excel (RECOMPETE) pilot grant program at the Economic Development Administration to form and implement economic development strategies in distressed labo…
Much obliged, very useful.
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#127Earlier quoted context omitted.
> To me, it's really stupid that anything but a tourist/business visit visa should be non-immigrant; all long-term stay visas should provide an easy path to permanent residence (sure, assuming whatever reasonable qualifications are met). Americans don’t want that. A lot of our immigration-related problems is that the executive branch created a de facto permanent immigration system (with modest Congressional acquiesce…
What Americans want tends to be irrelevant vs what states want
Americans elect both state and federal representatives. All levels of government are just enacting the will of the people.
If Americans don’t want easy paths to permanent residency/citizenship, it’s up to those of us who do want that to explain to them why they’re wrong.
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#128Earlier quoted context omitted.
There’s huge costs particularly to English speaking developed countries like India and Bangladesh.
Exactly! But meanwhile the narrative in the USA is "we're so benevolent for accepting the world's best & brightest." The USA gets stronger. The sources of that strength weaker. It's a broken idea.
If you take a top experimental particle physicist and put him in Dhaka you don’t get great experimental particle physics; you get a mediocre accountant with memories of particle physics.
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#129Earlier quoted context omitted.
> Or are there other factors separate from the marginal cost to a professor of an additional grad student which should be included (e.g. are there institutional-level resources which are significantly supporting this workforce?) No. At least, not in CS. What sorts if things would you be referring to? Compute? Honestly you're better off with a trivial cloud grant than trying to use the slurm cluster with a dozen ancie…
Ohh I just accepted your previous statement of 2k/yr overall, but of course you're only talking about CS. > The US graduates 2K PhDs per year, of which >60% are foreign nationals. It looks like across fields, it's ~55k PhDs/yr, so the "Billions" quote was probably right.
Yeah, sorry, I meant just CS. (Other fields get a lot more complicated pretty quickly, but most everything boils down to "stem phd students get paid an almost living wage".)
Re: America COMPETES Act of 2022 passed House and Senate
#130Earlier quoted context omitted.
Exactly! But meanwhile the narrative in the USA is "we're so benevolent for accepting the world's best & brightest." The USA gets stronger. The sources of that strength weaker. It's a broken idea.
If you take a top experimental particle physicist and put him in Dhaka you don’t get great experimental particle physics; you get a mediocre accountant with memories of particle physics.
Let me rephrase:
If you take one of Dhaka's best and brightest and remove him/her...Dhaka gets nothing.