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I hate to post a comment like this on HN, but since I can’t downvote… Did you… actually read the article? Like, at all?
Sometimes this is the right comment to post, here or anywhere.
California study begins screening for MDMA-assisted therapy for PTSD
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#23After this whole debacle in Canada [1] where two therapists were doing some downright freaky cuddle puddle from hell with a blindfold on a traumatized person, I am more curious about what they're doing to screen the therapists. These people hardly met the guidelines that MAPS set for therapy, and as described quite ridiculously violated people's well being instead. [1] https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/british-columbia/…
Huh, that’s pretty much rape, no? He (not depicted in video but described in text) had sexual intercourse with the person in his care while the patient was on MDMA. Homie that is not kosher at all. That is sexual assault. I am a huge fan of these drugs but this part of the world’s shame and puritan culture really shows this unexpected effect: it is not sufficient for something to be pleasant. It also has to be “medic…
> He (not depicted in video but described in text) had sexual intercourse with the person in his care while the patient was on MDMA.
It sounds like there was “intimate contact” during the session (maybe the spooning?) but the sex was not during the session. Still massively not OK.
> Yensen has admitted to having sex with Buisson after the experimental sessions ended but while she was still enrolled in the clinical trial. In a 2018 lawsuit that has since been settled out of court, she alleged it was sexual assault, while Yensen claimed in his response that Buisson manipulated him and initiated the encounter.
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#24If you're interested in MDMA sessions, and specifically MAPS (the pharma company that runs the trials), you might want to listen to the Cover story podcast, which deals with the MDMA/psylocybin culture of California as well as these trials. The first episode is at [1], the first episode dealing with maps is at [2].
These rape allegations are highly disconcerting and disheartening.
[1] https://www.thecut.com/2021/11/cover-story-podcast-goes-into...
[2] https://www.thecut.com/2022/03/cover-story-podcast-open-hear...
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#25Will Complex PTSD patients be involved when developing and testing PTSD treatments?
Given the DSM keeps CPTSD out in the latest version 5, no. Frankly until it does mental healthcare in the US won’t move forward in a substantial way as they keep trying to treat people with trauma with CBT and medication. Still the PTSD dx works for those with CPTSD, so it’s not all lost. But it gets really tricky since so many diagnoses are almost subsumed with the concept of CPTSD. Extremely hopeful for MDMA therap…
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Given the DSM keeps CPTSD out in the latest version 5, no. Frankly until it does mental healthcare in the US won’t move forward in a substantial way as they keep trying to treat people with trauma with CBT and medication. Still the PTSD dx works for those with CPTSD, so it’s not all lost. But it gets really tricky since so many diagnoses are almost subsumed with the concept of CPTSD. Extremely hopeful for MDMA therap…
Pete Walker echoes what you said: “Renowned traumatologist, John Briere, is said to have quipped that if Complex PTSD were ever given its due – that is, if the role of dysfunctional parenting in adult psychological disorders was ever fully recognized, the DSM (The Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders used by all mental health professionals) would shrink to the size of a thin pamphlet.”. ( http://www.…
There are a lot of mental disorders that are induced by neurological / physical things. I wish ADHD, ASD, Schizophrenia, SPD and more was just 'bad parenting'!!
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Given the DSM keeps CPTSD out in the latest version 5, no. Frankly until it does mental healthcare in the US won’t move forward in a substantial way as they keep trying to treat people with trauma with CBT and medication. Still the PTSD dx works for those with CPTSD, so it’s not all lost. But it gets really tricky since so many diagnoses are almost subsumed with the concept of CPTSD. Extremely hopeful for MDMA therap…
Gave you an upvote. CBT has done so much damage and really is a step backwards for those with trauma. It's ridiculous how all the knowledge we have about trauma still hasn't hit the mainstream psychiatric institution yet and 9 out of 10 times with the average provider it comes down to "Have you tried CBT?" versus trauma informed treatments that actually work (somatic therapy, IFS, EMDR, ketamine/psychedelics, stellat…
CBT and meds are insurance friendly. Even if therapists don't like it, they're basically forced into it by the system, otherwise payments are more likely to get clawed back in an audit by the insurance company. And why does insurance like CBT and meds? CBT is time boxed in many ways and 'evidence based'. Psychoanalysis and other therapy types are effectively not, and insurance already doesn't like paying for mental health as it is. Meds are relatively cheap compared to therapy also.
It's also related to why it's pretty hard to find therapists that take insurance in some places.
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Pete Walker echoes what you said: “Renowned traumatologist, John Briere, is said to have quipped that if Complex PTSD were ever given its due – that is, if the role of dysfunctional parenting in adult psychological disorders was ever fully recognized, the DSM (The Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders used by all mental health professionals) would shrink to the size of a thin pamphlet.”. ( http://www.…
There are a lot of mental disorders that are induced by neurological / physical things. I wish ADHD, ASD, Schizophrenia, SPD and more was just 'bad parenting'!!
There are environmental potentiators for each one of those, as well as genetic or neurological markers.
For example with schizophrenia:
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/32890864/
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7234402/
ADHD:
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/28477799/
So in some ways, this is your wish. Statistically, everything about many mental illnesses get worse in poor environments for children. There are many adults who might otherwise present with schizophrenia that don’t because they had a better environment.
Early childhood emotional attachment types are also relatively predictive of symptomology and psychosis in schizophrenics
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4193730/#!po=1....
It doesn’t invalidate the crux of your comment and I’m not attempting to say there are no neurological or genetic causes, but severity and prevalence would be categorically reduced in a world with better parental care.
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Right, it should be sold next to the other poisonous stuff at the gas station that has disclaimers for the consumer to keep it away from children. The public itself needs to readjust its role with the government, where availability doesn't mean endorsement.
This doesn't work with alcohol or nicotine. Why should it work with MDMA?
One might rather live in a world where MDMA (a far less addicting substance with more acute rather than chronic side effects) is endemic rather than those two.