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Kaspersky is declared a US national security threat and is banned by the FCC

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Re: Kaspersky is declared a US national security threat and is banned by the FCC

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Post by chemmail »

the_snooze wrote: post #33

Is there any point in using antivirus these days anyway? I'm open to being wrong here, but I'm under the impression that antivirus exists only to tick boxes in outdated security compliance checklists. How big of a threat are viruses compared to, say, rogue antivirus products themselves?

There really is not. Windows Security is insanely good at detecting everything nowdays. I still use Malwarebytes Antimalware as that was really good at detecting things back in the Windows Defender days, and i still have a lifetime subscription. But i feel even that is not really necessary, you can run the free one every once if a while to find bad cookies and such.

Re: Kaspersky is declared a US national security threat and is banned by the FCC

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Post by 8note »

monetus wrote: post #209
rat9988 wrote: post #176

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The only backlash I saw is the backlash to snowden from its own country.

That is just silly, and has to be said in bad faith. Are you serious?

He's still living in Russia in fear for going back to the US

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Post by Bud »

klibertp wrote: post #306
edgyquant wrote: post #153

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Which is the entire point of their argument? The Russian government is objectively worse by any honest metric.

> The Russian government is objectively worse by any honest metric. Any metric you and I would like to use, yes. The govt of Saudi Arabia, which is an ally of ours, murders journalists with a chainsaw on a foreign soil and smuggles the body out of the host country in suitcases - yet no Saudi company is penalized. Supporting a proxy war in Yemen is not that different from Russian invasion, but somehow it suffers no co…

In fairness, when you say "no Saudi company"...there ARE no companies in Saudi Arabia which we could sanction. Not really. There's the oil business, which basically is the same thing as the regime itself. Saudi Arabia doesn't do anything else. Doesn't produce anything else.

Re: Kaspersky is declared a US national security threat and is banned by the FCC

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Post by lazyeye »

Maursault wrote: post #54

Ok, let's cut the crap. Is Kaspersky a dirtbag or not? I suspect not, but it is an unfortunate accident he was born in and runs his company from Russia, the government of which is a dirtbag, so, correct me if I am wrong, Kaspersky must be a dirtbag by association, but especially for discovering Stuxnet. Believable, but I think the real reasons Kaspersky is persona non grata is due to having discovered Stuxnet, and Ka…

You dont sound like a patriot.You sound like the opposite.

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Post by Bud »

laurent92 wrote: post #269
bboozzoo wrote: post #245

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That's funny as the thread is about contrasting Russia with US, but I don't seen to recall US invading any neighboring countries under the false pretense of defending some minorities.

I remember a woman testifying that they were killing babies in Kuwait, and she was later discovered as being the daughter of an ambassador. Source: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nayirah_testimony I remember the late Colin Powell brandishing proof of WMD in Iraq at the UN Counsel. He will never land in the TPI, neither will the UN Counsel for basing a judgment upon unverified allegation causing dozens of thousands of…

The difference is that Powell wasn't intentionally lying, of course. Easy to gloss over that. But it does matter.

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Post by Bud »

laurent92 wrote: post #282
saiya-jin wrote: post #243

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I, as non-US citizen, thus having sub-human rights in eyes of every US 3-letter agency, still prefer very much US approach to, well, practically any matter compared to Russian one. For Russians, they really don't like anybody else. All that slavic closeness is crap as we can see in Ukraine and elsewhere. Heck, they don't care about other Russians neither, just a cannon fodder and poor fuckers to exploit and then thro…

It would help US to condemn Colin Powell for brandishing supposed proof of WMD at the UN Counsel in 2003, which they never found after invasion. It would help for the US to stop Predator attacks. Most of the world is convinced that they are illegal and illegitimate. And as a French person, I preferred Trump, because he didn’t trigger any new war and he calmed down Little Rocket Man. He even shook his hand! And donate…

Trump didn't "trigger any new war"? You might want to review who got impeached (and was guilty) for intentionally weakening Ukraine and propping up Russian interests.

Re: Kaspersky is declared a US national security threat and is banned by the FCC

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Post by 8note »

xeromal wrote: post #372
cf141q5325 wrote: post #80

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Shouldnt i have the same concerns with software from the US? You dont really have to nationalize to force devs to push malicious code (looking at you Australia)

This kind of comment isn't my favorite, but I do understand where you're coming from. I personally think that it's better the devil you know than the devil you don't. I'm American. My country is the US. Yes, they're spying on me. Yes, they do naughty things. But I assume that at the end of the day, the US has my interests at heart more than China does. Or the UK, or Russia, or Turkey, or anyone else. I happen to live…

The us government has been known to want to keep people alive for the purposes of chattel slavery.

I'd much prefer misdeeds that don't affect me from a government that doesn't care about me, than those of a local government who wants to keep me alive for the purposes of doing more bad things to me in the future

Re: Kaspersky is declared a US national security threat and is banned by the FCC

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Post by mmis1000 »

the_snooze wrote: post #33

Is there any point in using antivirus these days anyway? I'm open to being wrong here, but I'm under the impression that antivirus exists only to tick boxes in outdated security compliance checklists. How big of a threat are viruses compared to, say, rogue antivirus products themselves?

To disable the build-in one. Windows defender acts wild randomly during you do serious work is a huge pain for many people. Can you imagine. You play FPS happily at 120fps and windows defender suddenly kick in and you got 10fps, shoot down by the enemy team. It happens all the time.

Re: Kaspersky is declared a US national security threat and is banned by the FCC

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Post by hamstergene »

older wrote: post #66
Maursault wrote: post #54

Ok, let's cut the crap. Is Kaspersky a dirtbag or not? I suspect not, but it is an unfortunate accident he was born in and runs his company from Russia, the government of which is a dirtbag, so, correct me if I am wrong, Kaspersky must be a dirtbag by association, but especially for discovering Stuxnet. Believable, but I think the real reasons Kaspersky is persona non grata is due to having discovered Stuxnet, and Ka…

Kaspersky graduated from The Technical Faculty of the KGB Higher School in 1987. That was a definition of a dirtbag in Soviet time.

Was every 17 years old who attended anything with KGB written on it, really dubbed a dirtbag in the 70-80s? Even knowing there were 100 years of Red Scare this sounds a lot like like a neurotic leap conclusion, I can't imagine KGB's cryptography school teaching teenagers torture skills or something like that.

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Post by robomartin »

Someone needs to make a movie: Wargames 2

In the new version a super AI computer is ready to launch a massive automated cyber war. While trying to get the 16 digit “launch” code it runs thousands of simulated scenarios. As things look dire, the hero has the machine play tick-tac-toe with itself…

Just before launching the attack it learns: The only way to win is not to play.

Seriously. What the hell is the world devolving into?

Here’s what I think an alien species watching earth from distant orbit would think: The people are OK. Their so-called leaders are insane. Every single war was started by their leaders. How odd.

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