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Kaspersky is declared a US national security threat and is banned by the FCC

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Post by TheGigaChad »

laurent92 wrote: post #282
saiya-jin wrote: post #243

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I, as non-US citizen, thus having sub-human rights in eyes of every US 3-letter agency, still prefer very much US approach to, well, practically any matter compared to Russian one. For Russians, they really don't like anybody else. All that slavic closeness is crap as we can see in Ukraine and elsewhere. Heck, they don't care about other Russians neither, just a cannon fodder and poor fuckers to exploit and then thro…

It would help US to condemn Colin Powell for brandishing supposed proof of WMD at the UN Counsel in 2003, which they never found after invasion. It would help for the US to stop Predator attacks. Most of the world is convinced that they are illegal and illegitimate. And as a French person, I preferred Trump, because he didn’t trigger any new war and he calmed down Little Rocket Man. He even shook his hand! And donate…

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Post by ASalazarMX »

yololol wrote: post #278

I'm surprised that everyone here thinks that Kaspersky makes only antivirus products. They have a ton of security products, including their own microkernel-based OS: https://os.kaspersky.com/technologies/microkernel/

I guess NginX is hoping no one looks their way.

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Post by kelnos »

makomk wrote: post #236
tablespoon wrote: post #223

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> The problem is: how do you run a business that has offices and physical assets in , without being at least partially beholden to the government? The problem with this kind of Mad Libs argument is that it falsely implies the substitutions are equivalent when they're not. Also your quote shears away the context of the original statement that made it meaningful.

There definitely seems to be at least a little truth to that argument, though. Over the years Kaspersky has found and documented a whole bunch of seemingly US government linked malware whilst their Western competitors just haven't, and I think there's at least some evidence this is intentional on the part of those other companies.

> There definitely seems to be at least a little truth to that argument, though.

Of course there is, but as this thread is trying to point out, that "little truth" is completely insufficient when assessing risk. The degree to which a particular government can interfere with companies headquartered there matters. The legal culture in those countries matter. The ability to contest and redress this interference matters. An estimate of the worst that can happen to an individual who resists this interference matters.

I'm a US citizen living in the US, so I'm certainly biased, but I do believe my data (and my person, and if I ran a company, my company too) is much safer being in the US than in Russia.

It's certain that all major world powers engage in various forms of cyber warfare. It's completely expected that countries (and companies within them) that are allied will (most of the time) not expose other allies for cyber attacks and malware distribution. It's also completely expected that antagonistic countries (and their companies) will do so.

Back to the point of this article: of course Kaspersky is a US national security threat, precisely because it (as a Russian entity) will try to expose the US government's cyber warfare capabilities. Whether or not Kaspersky is a threat to the cybersecurity of individuals in the West isn't the issue here. (I would expect they probably are, to some extent, though!)

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Post by binarymax »

gtirloni wrote: post #259
binarymax wrote: post #39

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It’s a good question for the Windows ecosystem, because it was absolutely necessary for Windows 7 and earlier, but I haven’t used later versions. I’ve been using Linux/Mac exclusively for the past 10 years and never even considered it.

You actively disable Windows Defender?

No. What in my message made you think that?

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Post by annoyingnoob »

gamblor956 wrote: post #194
annoyingnoob wrote: post #115

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I have personally watched Windows Defender fail to notice a real virus infection from a USB flash drive. The USB flash drive was plugged in and instantly Windows was infected - Windows Defender did nothing. You could then manually run a Windows Defender scan and it would find the infection but it would not prevent the infection. I think one's need for a security product should match one's exposure to issues - it depe…

MS Defender used to automatically scan USB devices when plugged in but that's not the default anymore (and AFAIK hasn't been for a few years since one of the major updates); you now have to enable it somewhere non-intuitive (like the Policy Editor?).

My point is that people thinking that Windows 10 comes with Windows Defender, and that Windows Defender will protect them by default, are in for a surprise. Defender probably is not doing anything you might think it should, by default.

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Post by unethical_ban »

naoqj wrote: post #187
edgyquant wrote: post #153

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Which is the entire point of their argument? The Russian government is objectively worse by any honest metric.

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Regarding freedom of speech, _relative_ freedom of association and the ability to do business and to criticize governments, the US is miles ahead of Russia.

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Post by ajsnigrutin »

kergonath wrote: post #288
ajsnigrutin wrote: post #267

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This is a very americo-centric view.... Most of the world consideres americans the "bad guys", and a lot worse than the russians. You can start with southern america and middle east. Then the balkans (where putin is doing the same as you guys did with kosovo). Even parts of africa would have a say. Here in the balkans, people were actively rooting for trump in the last two elections, because they were afraid Hillary…

You are way off base. First, I am not American and well aware of the imperialist and oppressive aspects. I would be quite happy to see the American hegemony disappear, but not for it to be replaced by Russian aggression or Chinese imperialism. > Most of the world consideres americans the "bad guys", and a lot worse than the russians. You can start with southern america and middle east. Their absurd support for tin po…

> Their absurd support for tin pot dictators in South America was and is reprehensible, and the whole Iraq war was morally bankrupt and threw fuel on a fire that we’ll be trying to put out for decades. And yet, nothing the American did in the Middle East came anywhere near Aleppo or Mariupol. Or the Holodomor. Or the Prague spring.

Yeah sure... and iraq had weapons of mass destruction, and iraqi soldiers killed babies, and afghanistan had to be occupied for 20 years, because a few saudis flew a few planes into a few buildings. Plus syria, libya, lebanon etc... and considering how far back you go in history, there's also blood from vietnam on americans hand. And it's funny how it's a "beloved ruler" when it's a friend of america and "nasty dictator" when it's not... so america has to replace the ones they don't like (eg iran.)

Sarajevo is not in kosovo, quite a few years were between sarajevo and the bombing of yugoslavia/serbia. Kosovo albanians wanted to separate from the main country, and the main country (yugoslavia then) wouldn't let them... then they formed armed groups that attacked the serbs, and serbs attacked the albanians... basically the same thing that was happening with the russian minority in eg. donbas and lugansk in ukraine. Then someone (USA) had some geopolicital interests in the balkans, bombed the country for 78 days, bombed hospitals, passenger trains, busses, schools, tv stations, cluster bombed a few cities, bridges, roads, highways etc, and built a nato base in kosovo.

So, why have a base in the balkans, if they don't need it?

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Post by orangepurple »

stjohnswarts wrote: post #206
orangepurple wrote: post #147

The only software most Windows PCs need out of the box is TinyWall ( https://tinywall.pados.hu/ )

Why is this better than the built in windows firewall?

Much, much easier to configure and manage and denies almost everything by default. Extremely easy to quickly unblock software as necessary too. 10-100x faster workflow compared to the built in firewall, so you will actually bother to use it instead of get complacent or ignore it.

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Post by marvin »

libraryatnight wrote: post #125
older wrote: post #66

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Kaspersky graduated from The Technical Faculty of the KGB Higher School in 1987. That was a definition of a dirtbag in Soviet time.

I can't find the actual profile on Wired anymore, but I found it on the internet archive: https://web.archive.org/web/20140423055434/http://www.wired.... and also a sort of response to it https://web.archive.org/web/20140426095603/http://www.wired.... After I read that profile I decided I'd never use the software. I remember before news spread of the Russian troll farms being real, people talked about it like "who wo…

Comparison notwithstanding, that's what I felt when I first heard about PRISM. Holy shit, I knew this was all possible, but I hadn't believed that someone actually went through all the effort of doing it.

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Post by kelnos »

JabavuAdams wrote: post #280
alimov wrote: post #247

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While the methods may differ, is this not true of any governments intelligence agencies? Whether or not there is press/courts/rule of law. For press to report on an event they have to be aware of it, for courts to intervene they also have to be aware of it, for rule of law to matter then no part of a government can operate outside of it in any manner, so no extrajudicial actions either.

The point of press/courts/rule of law is that at least you have a chance. Without those, no chance. That matters. The US is not some monolithic entity. It's almost weirdly schizophrenic. Yes, the government will e.g. use some super-shaky legal arguments to justify torture ahem "enhanced interrogation", but on the other hand Freedom of Information Act requests still get processed. Yes, the NSA will spy on US citizens,…

> Knight-Ridder did some fantastic and courageous investigative journalism debunking the US casus belli in the run-up to the Iraq Invasion. It didn't stop the invasion, but they were recognized later. Can we imagine that happening in Russia?

This type of thing is something I wish people would recognize more. In Russia right now, the simple act of participating in a peaceful protest against the war in Ukraine could easily land you in jail. While the US government has at times had a sketchy anti-protest track record, can we really imagine the US federal government attempting to pass a law today that makes it a jail-able offense to speak out against a US military action? (Hint: the answer is, unequivocally, no.)

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