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Which means you can never use it in an incognito session without logging in
An incognito session provides privacy against other people who have casual access to your computer. It provides no extra security or privacy in the context of search providers.
Ask HN: Why do search engines not let you blacklist spam domains?
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Re: Ask HN: Why do search engines not let you blacklist spam domains?
#62Because Google and Bing (therefore Duck) are increasingly answer engines, keeping you on their page, supporting the SEO ecosystem and most importantly their ad revenues and network customers. We and the other few independent search engines have not made enough dent on the market to suffer SEO spam. We'll have a way to deal with it (watch this space). Right now you'll certainly get results "off the beaten path" and wi…
You do much better than Google (Google will always include "Top 10 Best Grass Fed Organic Steak in San Francisco, CA" from Yelp and then link to places that don't have Grass-fed beef options.)
However, currently, your first ranking option is Pinterest spam FYI: https://www.mojeek.com/search?q=grass+fed+beef+restaurant+in... → https://www.mojeek.com/search?q=grass+fed+beef+restaurant+in...
Your second option is the correct kind of result (a blog from a local that actually answers the question): https://www.grassfedgirl.com/paleo-friendly-restaurants-in-s...
Where most of the results on Google are not correct. They are mostly articles about Steaks (and a few actual restaurants that serve grass-fed beef, so that is good). Actually, FYI your results don't include these restaurants. eg. It would be nice if this Google result showed up in your results:
"SF / SOMA - Belcampo We source grass-fed and finished, pasture-raised meats directly from our own climate positive CA farms and seasonal vegetables from local farms."
Re: Ask HN: Why do search engines not let you blacklist spam domains?
#63Re: Ask HN: Why do search engines not let you blacklist spam domains?
#64Because Google and Bing (therefore Duck) are increasingly answer engines, keeping you on their page, supporting the SEO ecosystem and most importantly their ad revenues and network customers. We and the other few independent search engines have not made enough dent on the market to suffer SEO spam. We'll have a way to deal with it (watch this space). Right now you'll certainly get results "off the beaten path" and wi…
My go-to test search term is: "grass-fed beef restaurant in sf" You do much better than Google (Google will always include "Top 10 Best Grass Fed Organic Steak in San Francisco, CA" from Yelp and then link to places that don't have Grass-fed beef options.) However, currently, your first ranking option is Pinterest spam FYI: https://www.mojeek.com/search?q=grass+fed+beef+restaurant+in... → https://www.mojeek.com/searc…
As you point out #1 organic link on G is Yelp. They currently block all but G, Bing and Yahoo! - we'll get in touch with them again. https://www.yelp.com/robots.txt
Organic link #3 on G is Belcampo; we have some of that indexed so we'll take a look: https://www.mojeek.com/search?q=food+site%3Abelcampo.com
Re: Ask HN: Why do search engines not let you blacklist spam domains?
#65Google used to have that feature: https://www.ghacks.net/2011/03/10/google-adds-block-all-doma... In my opinion, back then, they needed the data as a training set for spammy domain detection. Now that SERP spam is no longer a serious issue (in Google's eyes anyway), why bother. Google always knows what's best for you.
Given the number of clones of StackOverflow and GitHub that show up on the front page, even at the cost of replacing the original SO and GH links that they copied from, I can only assume either Google's eyes are blind or the search engine devs are so good at their job that they never need to Google anything themselves.
Re: Ask HN: Why do search engines not let you blacklist spam domains?
#66For the same reason that streaming services don't really give you the ability to filter by cast/crew or hide stuff you've already seen: to gently guide you into avenues that are more profitable for them, regardless of what you say you really want.
I just tried searching Netflix, HBO, and Prime for Bruce Willis; all showed me his movies. Is that not the filtering you’re expecting?
A filter gives me a binary outcome; it either has Bruce Willis, or it doesn't.
All of which is sort of the ops point I think; the search engine is fuzzy because it wants to show you many things for profit reasons. I don't think it's geared toward maximizing profitability at the expense of what you're looking for, exactly, so much as engagement as a proxy for profitability. The more you use the service, the stickier you likely are as a paid subscriber, so they'll happily shovel things that don't match the search (but are similar!...and that quickly jump the shark into being quite dissimilar, but hey, maybe!) to try and keep your eyeballs.
A better demonstration of this handling is searching for movie titles they don't have. "The Princess Bride" on Netflix, for instance, doesn't even tell you "We don't have that", but instead "Explore titles related to: The Princess Bride". And while the first suggestion, The Neverending Story, is kinda a fair suggestion, some slightly later ones, like Top Gun and Zoolander, feel like a stretch.
Re: Ask HN: Why do search engines not let you blacklist spam domains?
#67For the same reason that streaming services don't really give you the ability to filter by cast/crew or hide stuff you've already seen: to gently guide you into avenues that are more profitable for them, regardless of what you say you really want.
I just tried searching Netflix, HBO, and Prime for Bruce Willis; all showed me his movies. Is that not the filtering you’re expecting?
I'm largely guessing - I don't watch movies, but I read a lot of manga online, and the only site that allows similar queries and still has UX a bit better than late '90s (ie. mangaupdates.com) is a fan-made (ie. pirated) one with porn/hentai...
Re: Ask HN: Why do search engines not let you blacklist spam domains?
#68Re: Ask HN: Why do search engines not let you blacklist spam domains?
#69Google used to have that feature: https://www.ghacks.net/2011/03/10/google-adds-block-all-doma... In my opinion, back then, they needed the data as a training set for spammy domain detection. Now that SERP spam is no longer a serious issue (in Google's eyes anyway), why bother. Google always knows what's best for you.
Re: Ask HN: Why do search engines not let you blacklist spam domains?
#70Google used to have that feature: https://www.ghacks.net/2011/03/10/google-adds-block-all-doma... In my opinion, back then, they needed the data as a training set for spammy domain detection. Now that SERP spam is no longer a serious issue (in Google's eyes anyway), why bother. Google always knows what's best for you.
Wow, I'm surprised that I never remembered that feature existed. I wonder why they removed it, just like why they removed the insanely helpful "Cached" feature.