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Re: Killed by Microsoft

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Post by pjmlp »

Kuinox wrote: post #50

Contrary to Google, Microsoft often provide a migration path to another of their service covering the same usecases. Examples: Skype For Business => Teams. Microsoft Edge => Chromium Edge. Windows 10 IoT Core => It's not dead ??? Office Viewer => Web Based Office Kinect => It's not dead ??? Microsoft Anti-Virus for Windows => Windows Defender Come on, microsoft has big flaws but backward compat/keeping old product al…

Not always,

XNA (C#) => DirectXTK (C++)

C++/CX => C++/WinRT (back to ATL / Visual C++ 6.0 dev experience)

Form/WPF => UWP (.NET Native / C++/CX / WRL) => WinUI 3.0 (.NET with CsWinRT, C++/WinRT)

.NET Framework => .NET Core

All of them require rewrites, leave relevant use cases behind, at least they leave the lights running for them to still be targeted, which makes many stubborn to keep using the stuff that actually works.

Re: Killed by Microsoft

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Post by tagh »

Let's not forget Sunrise calendar, which Microsoft purchased and supposedly integrated into Outlook. I miss Sunrise calendar so much... I've yet to find an alternative that reads from other calendar services and task managers so well.

Re: Killed by Microsoft

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Post by hackmiester »

exodust wrote: post #263
bscphil wrote: post #172

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I think you're lashing out at Google for a variety of different (and very good!) reasons, but they're outside the range of my comment. People getting banned from Google services because of broken automation is bad, of course, but it has nothing to do with the issue of whether migration paths are provided when services are sunsetted at Google. My point is that for Google's core services, they generally due try to migr…

> "they generally do try to migrate users to a product that provides the same basic features" Try telling that to Picasa users. When Google announced it was "moving on from Picasa", they stated: "We apologize for any inconvenience this transition causes, but.... Google Photos is a new and smarter product that offers a better platform for us..." A better platform for Google. Not users. Many Picasa users, like my fathe…

Maybe a Windows update fixed this? My parents are still using Picasa.

Re: Killed by Microsoft

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Post by vanderZwan »

______-_-______ wrote: post #208
johnnyanmac wrote: post #147

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>Kinect => It's not dead ??? Is it alive? It very much has an immensely passionate community of students and hobbyists using it in ways well past its intended use (e.g. it's some of the cheapest mocap hardware you can buy). But I don't think you've been able to officially purchase one for 4+ years now. Hard to call that "alive" in a business sense. Honestly a real shame that Xbox hasn't pivoted it into some other tea…

I'd call it dead I guess, but I don't see why that's a problem. It's a physical product, you can't keep manufacturing those forever. They supported it until the next generation of consoles came out. Would it be fair to make a site called "Killed by Nintendo" and list the Game Boy and Wii?

Also, it's still being sold as a product to the one market where it really was popular (researchers and hobby enthusiasts). That's not quite the same thing as being dead.

Re: Killed by Microsoft

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Post by phist_mcgee »

zozbot234 wrote: post #51
paskozdilar wrote: post #38

I was gifted a Nokia Lumia 640 when it just came out. It was a nice phone, it had good hardware, it was fast and worked smoothly. It had all the applications I needed and honestly thought that it was gonna take over Android, given Nokia's reputation and popularity of Windows. Then Microsoft forced a Windows 10 update on it, and everything slowed down to a halt. Camera application was running at ~5fps max. Application…

AIUI, you can physically install Linux on the Lumia phones, they're not locked down in any way. It's a matter of hardware support.

AIUI?

Re: Killed by Microsoft

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Post by xaerise »

SomeBoolshit wrote: post #72
Kuinox wrote: post #50

Contrary to Google, Microsoft often provide a migration path to another of their service covering the same usecases. Examples: Skype For Business => Teams. Microsoft Edge => Chromium Edge. Windows 10 IoT Core => It's not dead ??? Office Viewer => Web Based Office Kinect => It's not dead ??? Microsoft Anti-Virus for Windows => Windows Defender Come on, microsoft has big flaws but backward compat/keeping old product al…

There was also MSN messenger, which was more capable than Skype other than the connection to the actual telephone network (having messages be delivered later without requiring both people to be online at the same time - amazing!) and when Teams replaced Skype, even more features were dropped. What part of that is positive other than "well, you can still do some of the things but we prefer to give you an inferior prod…

MSN Messenger is on the list. In the Apps part and in the middle column.

1999 - 2013 MSN Messenger

Killed about 9 years ago, MSN Messenger (later rebranded as Windows Live Messenger) was a cross-platform instant messaging client. It was over 13 years old.

Re: Killed by Microsoft

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Post by mnd999 »

rob74 wrote: post #284
bastardoperator wrote: post #204

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The login experience is the worst of any app I've used. Stop asking me every day to login, and god help you if you're in multiple orgs. I pretty much do the web app at this point. Thankfully my org mostly uses zoom and slack, but customers on teams refuse to experience normalcy and demand everyone experience their pain, same with webex, come on people...

Well, at least with Teams you can use the web app, for Zoom has to be installed, and at least under Linux it's a complete train-wreck. Incidentally, I have the issue with 100% CPU usage during video calls with Zoom, while Teams (in the browser) works just fine.

Zoom can run in the browser.

Re: Killed by Microsoft

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Post by wohfab »

syshum wrote: post #220
Thorrez wrote: post #174

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https://killedbygoogle.com/ contains Nexus. That was clearly replaced by Pixel. Disclosure: I work at Google, but not on anything related to this.

No... Sorry just no Nexus line was an Affordable/ value reference implantation of Android Pixel is an overpriced atrocity marketing platform for Google. Pixel IS NOT a replacement for Nexus

So, every time a company increases prices, it "kills" something? By that logic, every company kills nearly everything, every time.
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