I had no idea Edge got discontinued.
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#182Earlier quoted context omitted.
Came here to make this point. Also, killing off products is not unhealthy. I for one am glad that eventually someone had the sense to kill off Bob. Sometimes- like for devs invested in Silverlight- it can be frustrating, but no reason to keep inferior or outdated products afloat.
I am still salty about how badly they ruined Skype, though.
Skype was amazing until it was acquired.
Would Zoom even exist today if Microsoft never bought Skype?
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#183Earlier quoted context omitted.
I don't think this (or these) list(s) are aiming to shame MS (or Google) for shutting down products, only to catalog and preserve the history.
The Google list is absolutely aiming to shame Google. They break promises they made even just a few months earlier (Stadia is a recent example). Microsoft is a polar opposite: they kill unpopular things, monetize popular things, and provide ridiculously long support (and backwards compatibility).
Stadia is still alive afaik.
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#184Minecraft Earth never really got out of beta, but I thought for sure it was going to be a hit. The fact that it died makes me think AR is just never going to take off. Pokemon Go was 5 years ago and we haven't seen even a better novelty act since then.
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#185Contrary to Google, Microsoft often provide a migration path to another of their service covering the same usecases. Examples: Skype For Business => Teams. Microsoft Edge => Chromium Edge. Windows 10 IoT Core => It's not dead ??? Office Viewer => Web Based Office Kinect => It's not dead ??? Microsoft Anti-Virus for Windows => Windows Defender Come on, microsoft has big flaws but backward compat/keeping old product al…
I remember reading in Steve Jobs biography that when Larry Page became CEO of Google for the second time he reached out to other CEOs in the industry for advice on being a CEO. Jobs advice was to get rid of all the myriad of products and only focus on 3 or 4 key things. If I’m not wrong, spring pruning started with Page as a CEO.
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#186Contrary to Google, Microsoft often provide a migration path to another of their service covering the same usecases. Examples: Skype For Business => Teams. Microsoft Edge => Chromium Edge. Windows 10 IoT Core => It's not dead ??? Office Viewer => Web Based Office Kinect => It's not dead ??? Microsoft Anti-Virus for Windows => Windows Defender Come on, microsoft has big flaws but backward compat/keeping old product al…
My oldest kid is just aging into gaming. We’ve got the Disneyland Adventures game and a Kinect for her. Can confirm, Kinect is dead. You can only get them refurbished now, they’re no longer manufactured. The new consoles no longer support Kinect, we had to dig out an original Xbox One for her. When the Kinect launched, Microsoft had trouble getting a critical mass of players that would attract developers. Without dev…
> When the Kinect launched, Microsoft had trouble getting a critical mass of players that would attract developers
Developers generally disliked it. It just didn't work well as a game controller.
The Wii was much more practical. You still had a controller in your hand with physical buttons, which makes a big difference, and it worked as a fairly accurate pointing device. Those more than made up for the limitations of accelerometer-only motion control.
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#187Contrary to Google, Microsoft often provide a migration path to another of their service covering the same usecases. Examples: Skype For Business => Teams. Microsoft Edge => Chromium Edge. Windows 10 IoT Core => It's not dead ??? Office Viewer => Web Based Office Kinect => It's not dead ??? Microsoft Anti-Virus for Windows => Windows Defender Come on, microsoft has big flaws but backward compat/keeping old product al…
My oldest kid is just aging into gaming. We’ve got the Disneyland Adventures game and a Kinect for her. Can confirm, Kinect is dead. You can only get them refurbished now, they’re no longer manufactured. The new consoles no longer support Kinect, we had to dig out an original Xbox One for her. When the Kinect launched, Microsoft had trouble getting a critical mass of players that would attract developers. Without dev…
> That device is SO much more engaging and approachable for kids than trying to teach them to use a controller.
I dunno. I had the original kinect for the Xbox 360 and the controls were wonky. A controller might be weird for a few hours but especially kids should be able to pick it up quickly and then it does exactly what you input, unlike the Kinect. However, I have watched multiple girlfriends struggle with 3D controller input so maybe it's just not for everyone and has nothing to do with kids?
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#188Earlier quoted context omitted.
Teams is unbelievably shit though. It’s like they don’t even care.
Yes! Teams is by far the worst "popular" software i've ever used. It's so bad that eventhough most businesses depend on teams, they, as well as everyone else, would be better off if teams suddenly disappears from one day to another. edit: Just a few things that annoy me basically on a daily basis: - The status isn't always up to date. Sometimes it takes minutes to you or your contacts to show the correct status. - It…
Still better than Skype though.
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#189the Trackball Explorer and the Sidewinder Force Feedback joystick should get entries.
MSTE is my daily-driver, I've stocked up on spares in the event of failures. One had been so regularly used it's worn the paint off where my palm rests on it. NOTHING comes close it's excellent design (and I've got a bin FULL of pretenders-to-the-throne).
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#190Contrary to Google, Microsoft often provide a migration path to another of their service covering the same usecases. Examples: Skype For Business => Teams. Microsoft Edge => Chromium Edge. Windows 10 IoT Core => It's not dead ??? Office Viewer => Web Based Office Kinect => It's not dead ??? Microsoft Anti-Virus for Windows => Windows Defender Come on, microsoft has big flaws but backward compat/keeping old product al…
Yeah like: > Skype for Business Expiring in over 3 years, Skype for Business (formerly Microsoft Lync and Office Communicator) was an enterprise instant messaging software developed by Microsoft as part of the Microsoft Office suite. It was almost 18 years old. It’s still around because of a lengthy transition path Microsoft offers and they admit that and then start talking about it in the past tense…
It's kinda sad that they're killing SfB.
Behind the scenes, it uses SIP and SDP for establishing calls - back in the day at $BigCo, we were developing a software suite for debugging SIP infrastructure, and Skype for Business was surprisingly easy to integrate. Shame that Teams switched to a proprietary Microsoft protocol now.