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Re: Killed by Microsoft

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Post by seanmcdirmid »

johnnyanmac wrote: post #147
Kuinox wrote: post #50

Contrary to Google, Microsoft often provide a migration path to another of their service covering the same usecases. Examples: Skype For Business => Teams. Microsoft Edge => Chromium Edge. Windows 10 IoT Core => It's not dead ??? Office Viewer => Web Based Office Kinect => It's not dead ??? Microsoft Anti-Virus for Windows => Windows Defender Come on, microsoft has big flaws but backward compat/keeping old product al…

>Kinect => It's not dead ??? Is it alive? It very much has an immensely passionate community of students and hobbyists using it in ways well past its intended use (e.g. it's some of the cheapest mocap hardware you can buy). But I don't think you've been able to officially purchase one for 4+ years now. Hard to call that "alive" in a business sense. Honestly a real shame that Xbox hasn't pivoted it into some other tea…

There isn’t much money in selling to creators? And the niche the Kinect had with active gaming has been reliably filled by Meta/Facebook/oculus’s quest, it’s too bad Microsoft didn’t explore that more deeply.

Re: Killed by Microsoft

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Post by AstroJetson »

salmo wrote: post #84
Kuinox wrote: post #50

Contrary to Google, Microsoft often provide a migration path to another of their service covering the same usecases. Examples: Skype For Business => Teams. Microsoft Edge => Chromium Edge. Windows 10 IoT Core => It's not dead ??? Office Viewer => Web Based Office Kinect => It's not dead ??? Microsoft Anti-Virus for Windows => Windows Defender Come on, microsoft has big flaws but backward compat/keeping old product al…

Came to say the same. The vast majority of these were superseded by new products or their feature set was absorbed by other tooling. Back office was one of the worst examples. It became baked into Windows Server except Exchange. I’m no fan of MS, but they tend to err on the side of overextending support and backwards compatibility. I would have killed Works 10 years before they did. And some of these are just failure…

I liked Works. It ran on much less hardware than the Office Suite did. The much lower cost was a big deal too. The reduced feature set was never a big deal, it's not often that I need to put reverse video blink in a Word doc to be printed.

Re: Killed by Microsoft

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Post by MikusR »

TedDoesntTalk wrote: post #119
skissane wrote: post #92

So many discontinued Microsoft products not listed: Xenix, Microsoft OS/2, Multiplan, Microsoft COBOL, Microsoft Fortran/PowerStation, Microsoft Pascal/QuickPascal, the classic Microsoft Basic line (BASIC/BASICA/GW-BASIC/QuickBASIC/QBASIC/PDS/VBDOS), MS-DOS, MSX-DOS, Microsoft Adventure, Microsoft Decathlon, Z-80 SoftCard, Microsoft Delta (the version control system), Windows NT OS/2 subsystem, Presentation Manager f…

Nice list! You forgot Microsoft hardware, too. Do they still make webcams? The Z-80 soft card? And what about the software they made for the Apple 2e?

Announced last week. https://www.theverge.com/2022/3/22/22990673/microsoft-surfac...

Re: Killed by Microsoft

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Post by [deleted] »

Kuinox wrote: post #50

Contrary to Google, Microsoft often provide a migration path to another of their service covering the same usecases. Examples: Skype For Business => Teams. Microsoft Edge => Chromium Edge. Windows 10 IoT Core => It's not dead ??? Office Viewer => Web Based Office Kinect => It's not dead ??? Microsoft Anti-Virus for Windows => Windows Defender Come on, microsoft has big flaws but backward compat/keeping old product al…

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Re: Killed by Microsoft

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Post by jbullock35 »

glitchc wrote: post #125
jbullock35 wrote: post #18

Missing: Microsoft Bookshelf [1]. Encarta was a somewhat similar product, but the reference sources in Bookshelf were arguably better. For example, Bookshelf contained the unabridged American Heritage Dictionary, while Encarta used (I think) a Webster's dictionary [2]. I still use Bookshelf 1996 on most days of the week. [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Microsoft_Bookshelf [2] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Encarta_W…

Unless you have a Windows 3.1 vm kicking around just to support this, that seems unlikely.

No need for a VM. I'm running Windows 10. Setup is easy if you still have a drive that can read CDs: just mount the ISO (for example, with ImgBurn), copy all of the files to your SSD, and run AAMSSTP\APP\BSHELF96.EXE. The registry is never touched, so it's a very portable installation.

I suppose that the ability to run this nearly-30-year-old program with ease is testament to Microsoft's commitment to backward compatibility. And if I wanted, I could probably run it straight from the CD, as people did back in 1996.

Re: Killed by Microsoft

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Post by EvanAnderson »

mnd999 wrote: post #78
Kuinox wrote: post #50

Contrary to Google, Microsoft often provide a migration path to another of their service covering the same usecases. Examples: Skype For Business => Teams. Microsoft Edge => Chromium Edge. Windows 10 IoT Core => It's not dead ??? Office Viewer => Web Based Office Kinect => It's not dead ??? Microsoft Anti-Virus for Windows => Windows Defender Come on, microsoft has big flaws but backward compat/keeping old product al…

Teams is unbelievably shit though. It’s like they don’t even care.

The sysadmin experience on Windows is hot garbage, too. I assume the people writing it have had less than no experience dealing with deploying software to fleets of PCs, hot-desking, VDI, RDP farms, etc. It's ridiculously inefficient.

Re: Killed by Microsoft

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Post by MarcellusDrum »

BoumTAC wrote: post #76

It's missing Atom editor, it was my favorite text editor, now it's abandoned to death on github. They stop working on it the day they bought Github. I still remember Nat Friedman here in the comment section saying he won't stop developing Atom. He didn't even keep on his promise for a week.

I recommend Kate by KDE. Great editor.

Re: Killed by Microsoft

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Post by px43 »

Things NOT killed by Microsoft:

Clear text passwords collected and stored in LSASS.EXE long term.

SMBv1

Machines spraying their local user's password hashes all around the network constantly.

LLMNR

Symmetric (password based) authentication.

SPNs with Domain Admin privileges whose password hashes can be queried by any user at any time.

Full mappings of every user, machine, privileged level, authentication metadata, and active sessions available to any user on the network who feels like asking.

Office macros that read/write to the file system and execute shell commands.

Javascript files that can execute malicious shell commands when you try to read them.

DLL hijacking

Very weakly hashed passwords (NTLM) in the domain controller.

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