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Re: Killed by Microsoft

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Post by zapnuk »

mnd999 wrote: post #78
Kuinox wrote: post #50

Contrary to Google, Microsoft often provide a migration path to another of their service covering the same usecases. Examples: Skype For Business => Teams. Microsoft Edge => Chromium Edge. Windows 10 IoT Core => It's not dead ??? Office Viewer => Web Based Office Kinect => It's not dead ??? Microsoft Anti-Virus for Windows => Windows Defender Come on, microsoft has big flaws but backward compat/keeping old product al…

Teams is unbelievably shit though. It’s like they don’t even care.

Yes! Teams is by far the worst "popular" software i've ever used.

It's so bad that eventhough most businesses depend on teams, they, as well as everyone else, would be better off if teams suddenly disappears from one day to another.

edit: Just a few things that annoy me basically on a daily basis:

- The status isn't always up to date. Sometimes it takes minutes to you or your contacts to show the correct status.

- It is (unsupprisingly) not very responsive

- It hogs my CPU when its idle and especially during video calls. So much so that the fans of my 2020 MBP start spinning up - which otherwise only happens when I run a build/tests. This is especcially bad considering all other video call software (zoom, discord) run just fine.

- The UX is terrible when you are active in different organizations. It's riddled with bugs. Every time I switch organizations I have to type in my password twice because for some reason the login session expires instantaniously. If I switch back an forth sometimes some functionality like shring screen or accepting calls just stops working and I have to restart teams.

- It tries to include the formatting if you copy+paste in chat. It always looks bad and sometime is ittetating because the font size is way smaller.

- Cameras or shared desktops regularily freeze

- You cant set the audio level of individual participants. This is especiallly annoying if you're in the same room as other participants of larger meetings since you'd then head them twice.

- Because of the messy permission system between multiple organizations it's often not clear wether or not you can certain contacts of are allowed to use the chat in meetings.

Re: Killed by Microsoft

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Post by whoisthemachine »

skissane wrote: post #92

So many discontinued Microsoft products not listed: Xenix, Microsoft OS/2, Multiplan, Microsoft COBOL, Microsoft Fortran/PowerStation, Microsoft Pascal/QuickPascal, the classic Microsoft Basic line (BASIC/BASICA/GW-BASIC/QuickBASIC/QBASIC/PDS/VBDOS), MS-DOS, MSX-DOS, Microsoft Adventure, Microsoft Decathlon, Z-80 SoftCard, Microsoft Delta (the version control system), Windows NT OS/2 subsystem, Presentation Manager f…

Microsoft, contrary to the name, writes a lot of software!

Re: Killed by Microsoft

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Post by floucky »

creativenolo wrote: post #102
mnd999 wrote: post #78

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Teams is unbelievably shit though. It’s like they don’t even care.

What about Teams makes you think that? My experience has been the opposite. But that could have just been that it fitted our setup well. Or that I haven't tried better.

Copy/Paste code often doesn't work for me, especially SQL. There is a dedicated component to do that, but that's not convenient at all.

Re: Killed by Microsoft

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Post by chefandy »

LightG wrote: post #47
mdoms wrote: post #35

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I think it's a totally different product? Could be wrong though.

It seemed to be a rebrand or rewrite ... but it was never the same and I gave up on it. Haven't tried it recently so cannot remember the features they dropped, but was damned annoying. Wunderlist was fine. MS Todo was basically the same without some key features that I used. I gave up on it considering the developer timescale was snail pace... How tf do the big boys get "todo" so wrong? Google completely fluffed Goog…

I'm evaluating todo apps and most of the easily accessible opinion/info is shitty listicles or shitty YouTube self-help gurus. Out of curiosity, what were the key dropped Wunderlist->ToDo features? I do hear a lot of people appreciate the MS ToDo "My Day" feature and know a lot of people were annoyed by the switch, but assumed it was a general distaste for MS rather than specific features.

I have weird enough needs I was planning to use an open source CalDAV server, OS native clients and local push notification app for the parts the native apps don't support... but the FOSS CalDav server space is kind of rough right now.

Re: Killed by Microsoft

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Post by megablast »

cf100clunk wrote: post #88
paskozdilar wrote: post #38

I was gifted a Nokia Lumia 640 when it just came out. It was a nice phone, it had good hardware, it was fast and worked smoothly. It had all the applications I needed and honestly thought that it was gonna take over Android, given Nokia's reputation and popularity of Windows. Then Microsoft forced a Windows 10 update on it, and everything slowed down to a halt. Camera application was running at ~5fps max. Application…

Some background reading on Nokia's demise under Microsoft: https://mobilesyrup.com/2014/08/14/ex-nokia-exec-tomi-ahonen... There are great links at the bottom of that page to Tomi Ahonen's exhaustive coverage of Microsoft's destruction of Nokia's lucrative, profitable business model.

Nokia was on its way down before Microsoft cane along.

They prioritised hardware over software. Maintained multiple OS’s. Made lots of stupid derisions.

Re: Killed by Microsoft

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Post by stjohnswarts »

whoisthemachine wrote: post #112
skissane wrote: post #92

So many discontinued Microsoft products not listed: Xenix, Microsoft OS/2, Multiplan, Microsoft COBOL, Microsoft Fortran/PowerStation, Microsoft Pascal/QuickPascal, the classic Microsoft Basic line (BASIC/BASICA/GW-BASIC/QuickBASIC/QBASIC/PDS/VBDOS), MS-DOS, MSX-DOS, Microsoft Adventure, Microsoft Decathlon, Z-80 SoftCard, Microsoft Delta (the version control system), Windows NT OS/2 subsystem, Presentation Manager f…

Microsoft, contrary to the name, writes a lot of software!

Macrosoft aquisition may be in their future

Re: Killed by Microsoft

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Post by TedDoesntTalk »

skissane wrote: post #92

So many discontinued Microsoft products not listed: Xenix, Microsoft OS/2, Multiplan, Microsoft COBOL, Microsoft Fortran/PowerStation, Microsoft Pascal/QuickPascal, the classic Microsoft Basic line (BASIC/BASICA/GW-BASIC/QuickBASIC/QBASIC/PDS/VBDOS), MS-DOS, MSX-DOS, Microsoft Adventure, Microsoft Decathlon, Z-80 SoftCard, Microsoft Delta (the version control system), Windows NT OS/2 subsystem, Presentation Manager f…

Nice list! You forgot Microsoft hardware, too. Do they still make webcams? The Z-80 soft card?

And what about the software they made for the Apple 2e?

Re: Killed by Microsoft

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Post by Pxtl »

jnwatson wrote: post #21
Pxtl wrote: post #13

Games for Windows Live belongs there. When that service went down took a lot of online games that depended on it with it.

Huh, I didn’t realize they ended that.

I mean sort of? They still offer Solitaire and Minesweeper on the store, but they're games with an annual fee to remove the ads. Which is utterly revolting, of course.
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