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Ask HN: If you used to be socially awkward and shy, how did you improve?

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Re: Ask HN: If you used to be socially awkward and shy, how did you improve?

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I used to be shy, and then later I stopped caring at all. I can look like a hobo outside on my bike.

Social awkwardness is like vertigo, it's somewhat normal (in our society) to have it, but it's best to ignore it as it's counter productive to pay attention to it rather than focusing & enjoying the moment

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These comments make me feel like I'm getting old, which is weird to me. There are so many proactive comments that remind me of my 18 year old self. Social awkwardness, for me and for a lot of people I know, sort of just vanished with age. - The same kind of weird, unexplainable, vicious attitude that passes for cool among teenagers and some early adults fades for most people. The people who still adhere to that code…

I think having kids forces you out of your shell for their sake, you have to be able to speak your mind to strangers, etc. and it becomes easier talking to others to get things done.

Having kids at least gives you a sort of pass for saying ridiculous things in public, and doing otherwise socially frowned-upon things generally.

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Yep! Good times.

Oh god, I can remember how awkward I was. You’d think the hits to the head in rugby and the drugs would erase some of those memories, but nope.

If I've learned anything from sitcoms, it's that you need an odd number of hits to the head in order to develop amnesia.

Re: Ask HN: If you used to be socially awkward and shy, how did you improve?

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Don’t be afraid to ask for help. Asking someone, especially other men, for help is displaying respect. It acknowledges them as your superior in the domain of the request. This works remarkably well with strangers. If you’re in a new social situation where you don’t know anyone, identify someone who clearly does and at an opportune moment just ask him for help. Something like: “Hi, I’m dondraper36. I don’t know anyone here, would you please help me get introduced to some people?” Obviously, use your own words. If he declines politely thank him for his time and excuse yourself.

Sometimes people won’t want to help you. They may be in a busy, distracted, in a bad mood, or just a jerk. However, this should be pretty uncommon. If you find that everyone is disinterested then you need to look at the common factor, which is yourself.

Also, I hear really good things about Toastmasters. Practicing public speaking in a supportive environment may be helpful too.

Re: Ask HN: If you used to be socially awkward and shy, how did you improve?

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I was extremely shy and awkward when I was young. I even bought a cognitive therapy book called Overcoming Social Anxiety in my early 20’s. As you get older, a few things happen: - Your social confidence grows. You focus on just being polite and respectful, which are easier rules of behavior to follow, rather than saying or doing the “right thing” to be socially graceful, fluid, and open - You recognize that you have no obligation to be anyone’s entertainment and that you don’t have to try to be interesting or entertaining to others - You develop your repertory of filler words and questions to avoid the so-called awkward silence. You get better at small, filler talk in general, and no longer dismiss it as fake or unnecessary but merely as a functional means to grease our interactions - You focus less on social interaction as the measure of life and focus more on objective accomplishment - You have more power to avoid unwanted social interaction - Your “fight or flight” response tends to calm down when you are speaking to others - You gain confidence once you begin to recognize how tremendously insecure other people are, when you used to assume you were the insecure one, because they seemed so socially comfortable and graceful compared to you. - You realize that much social interaction is status-seeking over status metrics that perhaps you don’t even care about.

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These comments make me feel like I'm getting old, which is weird to me. There are so many proactive comments that remind me of my 18 year old self. Social awkwardness, for me and for a lot of people I know, sort of just vanished with age. - The same kind of weird, unexplainable, vicious attitude that passes for cool among teenagers and some early adults fades for most people. The people who still adhere to that code…

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Re: Ask HN: If you used to be socially awkward and shy, how did you improve?

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These comments make me feel like I'm getting old, which is weird to me. There are so many proactive comments that remind me of my 18 year old self. Social awkwardness, for me and for a lot of people I know, sort of just vanished with age. - The same kind of weird, unexplainable, vicious attitude that passes for cool among teenagers and some early adults fades for most people. The people who still adhere to that code…

I was watching Euphoria these days, and reading your comment reminded me of a thought I had watching that. School is like prison. People are forced to spend most of their living hours with one another for long periods of time. So like in prison, weird social dynamic develops itself. Once you're out of prison, everything is much smoother. You can simply exit any toxic situations.

That's contrary to everything I've heard about having a criminal record. Especially a felony, which is usually what prison is for.

Re: Ask HN: If you used to be socially awkward and shy, how did you improve?

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You say this like McDonalds food isn't already habit forming Heroin and other opiates need to be available over the counter at a store. This is the only way to remove the black market and the fentanyl tainted supply. If you just decriminalize, people still won't be able to get it and will have to go through a black market. The market doesn't need to be a free for all, we can choose to make advertising the compounds i…

re "Pretty much all drug problems are created by prohibition itself" Isn't the US opiod crisis (not heroin specifically) massively driven by the fact that it is fairly easy to get lavish subscription on legal pain killers? I mean I give it to you that suburbian moms on Vicodin won't roll up to a gas station with a semi-automatic, but they still OD, and that's still a drug problem.

The reason that crime such as robbery is associated with drug users is drugs are too expensive and the fact that gangs control the drug trade and also commit many of these violent crimes. Making things more available should drop prices if policies are implemented well.

The US opioid crisis has been caused by a multitude of factors, including endemic poverty in some communities combined with physicians being told by producers that the compounds they were prescribing were not addictive (that was a load of shit delivered to increase profits, obviously a bad thing and we need to train physicians better on basic pharmacology). On top of that, now that restrictions have been increased on prescribing people have shifted back to the black market where nothing is regulated and you might get fentanyl hotspots in your heroin which is definitely one of the big reasons for overdoses today. Overdoses were slightly lower when pill mills were operating because people knew exactly how much of what was in the pills they get from Walgreen's or whatever.

The issues I'm referring to are the ones that have been present for much longer. These issues include things such as lack of employment due to drug users having a record, discrimination against users in general stemming from the stigma and association with violent crime (even though 90%+ of users are nonviolent), stigma in treating addiction and mental illnesses, overdoses which almost always stem from a change in how the in regular d suppliers cut their products and change potency (people get used to a certain concentration of active and if that changes they may easily use too much), and the lack of drug education due to the "just say no" ideology which essentially lied to multiple generations about the dangers and mechanisms of psychoactive compounds.

When it comes to alcohol, there are socially learned ways of managing use of the drug (ethanol) in a responsible fashion. Only some small communities have learned how to use other drugs responsibly due to the stigma preventing spread of information.

We also don't have a lot of information on the intersection of these psychoactive compounds and mental illness. Its possible that there are people who have malfunction regulation of endogenous opioids (endorphins) or their receptors which a partial agonist could be used for therapy. There is literally not a single doctor who would prescribe an opiate agonist for mental health issues because the research on things like that is all but banned due to the DEA dragging their feet and refusing to give people licensing to study the compounds (MAPS has had to sue the DEA over this issue). Combine this with funding issues, where only studies looking at downsides of psychoactive get funded and now we have an extremely skewed/biased view.

There are even more issues than I've presented here, but these are the ones at the forefront of my mind when I consider the issues of drug use today. Almost all of these issues have their root in the prohibition of these substances. It would be far easier to not only study and understand drugs without prohibition, but people would also overdose less due to having a reliable, regulated, and affordable supply. The primary issue that feeds into this which isn't due to prohibition itself is poverty, and that's a whole 'nother thing.

Re: Ask HN: If you used to be socially awkward and shy, how did you improve?

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I agree with others that social awkwardness is something that just lessens over time. I mean, you may still be awkward, but so is almost everyone else, and you realize that no one actually cares about your awkwardness. Actually, almost everyone else is focused on their own awkwardness. The smoothest talkers are those who have actively worked on their social skills and are even more self focused.

So - socialize more, get older, and stop worrying about what others think of you, and you'll find it stops mattering. If you want, you can also turn yourself into a smooth talking politician/comedian/whatever through deliberate practice, to reduce any bumps of awkwardness. But I think this is only worth doing to achieve some personal goal.

I would say though that actual social anxiety is a different beast. I had severe social anxiety into my 30s, and the only thing that really helped with that was drugs and therapy.

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