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New Male Birth Control Pill Effectively Prevents Pregnancy Without Side Effects

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Re: New Male Birth Control Pill Effectively Prevents Pregnancy Without Side Effects

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It’s kinda wild that women are basically expected to take on all the side effect risk of birth control and no one even questions it unless side effects are actually death (Remember Yaz?). I’m also curious about how blocking vitamin A doesn’t have side effects - don’t I need vitamin A?

Historically, it's not actually all that wild when you consider that women are the ones that take on all the medical risk and took on most of the economic risk associated with being pregnant and later with having a child.

Remember that in many societies up until recent times sex outside of marriage was seriously frowned upon but the woman was often punished much more harshly than the man (if the man was even punished at all).

Women, then, needed birth control more than men did because pregnancy had more severe consequences for women than for men. Relying on men to take care of birth control requires the woman to put a lot of trust in the man, who might not have nearly as strong an interest as the woman in that birth control being successful.

Re: New Male Birth Control Pill Effectively Prevents Pregnancy Without Side Effects

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Birth control pills for men are great and all, but there is an aspect to it where having kids would require both parents' stated preferences and revealed preferences to align, and that sounds like some interesting relationship game theory.

Sounds more like the game was and is no more. Let's be honest, not a lot of men try to trick their partners into unexpected pregnancies.

Edit: oh I guess you mean that men will pretend they're not taking the pill while they are. I agree with you then.

Re: New Male Birth Control Pill Effectively Prevents Pregnancy Without Side Effects

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There is Trestolone which is studied and shown to be very effective (patients had zero sperm in their ejaculate after several months of administering the compound), but there are hormonal side effects similar to testosterone, which kind of explains why it's pretty much only used in the bodybuilding community. The pill in the article is a non-hormonal one, which is interesting

are the side effects really that much worse than what women have to deal with with their birth control? I’ve heard a lot of hormonal horror stories from women on the pill

Since noone actually responded about the side effects of Trestolone, I can give it a try as a steroid user. The effects of Trest are very similar to testosterone. On one hand you feel great, get stronger, your workouts are more fun, libido and confidence through the roof, and you feel a general sense of well being. On other hand it's very strong and it aromatizes into methyl-estrogen, so if you don't dial in your dosage perfectly, you may experience estrogen related side effects - you can get very emotional for no reason, get hormonal acne or have your tits grow. To actually use it a proper birth control, would require every day injections and an endocrynologist to oversee your hormone levels. I suppose that's mostly why the research has been abandoned.

Re: New Male Birth Control Pill Effectively Prevents Pregnancy Without Side Effects

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The other strategies are clearly not working though. Birth rates have at best stayed steady or declined.

They should keep going down if we want to save this planet. Our population growth is unsustainable. It'll cause some demographic issues in the short term but we'll just have to deal with that.

Advanced economies are only growing via immigration, there is no population growth through reproduction.

Also the planet will be just fine, it is us we’re worried about.

Re: New Male Birth Control Pill Effectively Prevents Pregnancy Without Side Effects

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This hardly compares to what women on the pill have to go through, for years. Why are we so squeamish about this?

Because it's halfway to having a vasectomy. Disgusting manipulation of flesh.

So don't do it? But why prevent other people from doing it?

Re: New Male Birth Control Pill Effectively Prevents Pregnancy Without Side Effects

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are the side effects really that much worse than what women have to deal with with their birth control? I’ve heard a lot of hormonal horror stories from women on the pill

Since noone actually responded about the side effects of Trestolone, I can give it a try as a steroid user. The effects of Trest are very similar to testosterone. On one hand you feel great, get stronger, your workouts are more fun, libido and confidence through the roof, and you feel a general sense of well being. On other hand it's very strong and it aromatizes into methyl-estrogen, so if you don't dial in your dos…

Thanks that’s exactly the info I was looking for!

Re: New Male Birth Control Pill Effectively Prevents Pregnancy Without Side Effects

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are the side effects really that much worse than what women have to deal with with their birth control? I’ve heard a lot of hormonal horror stories from women on the pill

From what I'm told the pill makes menstruation less painful and awkward for some women. To the point that they don't notice it very much. Perhaps there are different kinds but this is what I'm told..

One gf I had basically stopped having periods and cramps at all and was just fine with that. She pointed out that she was always one of the lucky ones with "light symptoms" anyway.

Re: New Male Birth Control Pill Effectively Prevents Pregnancy Without Side Effects

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What? Any attempt to regulate or restrict birth control against women is consistently held up as the “patriarchy” because it restricts women’s autonomy. Now not restricting it is patriarchy? Seems like literally everything is. So far, men’s birth controls haven’t been legalized because the risks have been pretty massive. The last trial I heard of had a massive risk of suicide. “Patriarchy” has no part of it.

It's easy to blame an anomalous thing for all your woes I guess. The vast majority of men I know are 100% behind birth control for women and don't really care how they do it as long as they do it. I know that a ton of guys would be happy to take a male BC as long as it didn't kill them or cause severe symptoms. Nobody wants to have a surprise baby.

Re: New Male Birth Control Pill Effectively Prevents Pregnancy Without Side Effects

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This depends. Do you want someone to be able to take care of you after you retire? Medical care, that sort of thing? If so, that means that you need people. People younger than you. People with some sort of societal attachment to you that results in them not just tossing your entire generation into a metaphorical woodchipper, because taking care of old people is a ton of work. The traditional way to ensure that such…

If I had the option to kill myself off once I hit the point that I'm no longer able to look after myself then I'd be pretty happy with that. And frankly with what I've seen of last the years of my elderly relatives lives even with care, I rather hope that I do have that option. Dementia looks no fun at all.

Just speaking hypothetically why wouldn't you have that option (I mean unless you were quadraplegic or just mentally completely out of it)? I have my own plan for that but hopefully that is decades and decades in the future. Also make sure to do a living will.
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