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37% of jobs in the United States can be performed entirely at home

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Re: 37% of jobs in the United States can be performed entirely at home

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I would change the title to "Approximately 37% of jobs in the United States can be performed entirely at home"

"37%" isn't a number with high precision to be begin with, so the "approximately" is implied.

I would say that it is quite specific.

Re: 37% of jobs in the United States can be performed entirely at home

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Once again, I am begging HN: this is a misleading title format for links to single papers or studies. What is being phrased as factual in the headline is merely an assertion in a paper, and should be reflected as such. “New paper claims (x)” is reasonable. “Study suggests (x)” is also reasonable. “(x)” borders on straight up falsehood when it portrays an assertion as a new finding about our world.

Re: 37% of jobs in the United States can be performed entirely at home

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

If only there were some way to transport people that wasn’t cars!

If only there was some way to live near work.

And that's the irony. People living in the city wants people back in office, which will force all of us who were able to move to the country to find a place in the city. It will put even more pressure on the housing market of big city. And then, they'll complain that they can't buy anything and are forced to rent for life.

Re: 37% of jobs in the United States can be performed entirely at home

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post #30

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Who are these people who can't accept that anyone wants to work from an office? If there are so many of them, can we see some examples? Office work is not just about the commute, it is also about terrible work conditions where you may be seated in an open space shared by support, engineers, sales, etc. "So many people can't accept that ANYONE is more productive in a remote setting". This "us vs them" discourse is so…

Just look at the comments in this thread. Plenty of people seem to assume that no one actually wants to go to the office.

At least at my office, the majority wants to stay remote. Only about a third want to come back in the office. It's not everyone, but it can be a very large segment.

That said, it seems remote would be the planet friendly option. No commute, reduce the need for additional building by retrofitting offices as residences (yeah, zoning), etc.

Re: 37% of jobs in the United States can be performed entirely at home

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post #78
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But then the jig is up, no? I thought that was an amazing moment when recently the NYC mayor asked CEOs to "help get workers back to the office". It's not about the work, it's not about the city, it's about making sure real estate doesn't crash and those campaign contributions can keep coming.

Maybe the mayor also cares about local businesses that get their income from city workers as well as the transport networks which need all the money they can get. Maybe they care about the tourist buzz from a busy city or the saftey in numbers. You don't always have to assume the worst of someone just because they are powerful.

These things are not mutually exclusive.

Re: 37% of jobs in the United States can be performed entirely at home

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5 of us wrote Microsoft Works for the Macintosh while working at home from 1984 to 1992. Without the internet, we got together as needed to merge code, usually once a month, but sometimes once a week. We talked on the phone. We went to Microsoft once in awhile. It was ideal and worked very well. Maybe it was just our personalities that made it work, but I am astonished that any programmer would rather go into the off…

This is fascinating to me! How did you manage to merge code in the 80s? What tools were available? Did you have three-way merge tools or did you do it more manually?

Or rather did you talk frequently and ensure that you weren't stepping in each other's files? How did you make changes to shared APIs?

Re: 37% of jobs in the United States can be performed entirely at home

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5 of us wrote Microsoft Works for the Macintosh while working at home from 1984 to 1992. Without the internet, we got together as needed to merge code, usually once a month, but sometimes once a week. We talked on the phone. We went to Microsoft once in awhile. It was ideal and worked very well. Maybe it was just our personalities that made it work, but I am astonished that any programmer would rather go into the off…

If you don't mind my asking, have you spent much of your time since then working from home or in an office?

I likewise very much prefer working from home and find I get more done, but wanting to get an idea of what it's like from someone who's seen and done both over the long term.

Re: 37% of jobs in the United States can be performed entirely at home

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5 of us wrote Microsoft Works for the Macintosh while working at home from 1984 to 1992. Without the internet, we got together as needed to merge code, usually once a month, but sometimes once a week. We talked on the phone. We went to Microsoft once in awhile. It was ideal and worked very well. Maybe it was just our personalities that made it work, but I am astonished that any programmer would rather go into the off…

Didn't Microsoft give everyone their own dedicated office in those days? I thought I read/heard somewhere that is what spawned development of Outlook/Exchange.

I agree about the distractions, it's extremely bad with the open office model and hard to get anything done for me. I would much prefer cubicles or dedicated offices.

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