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Post by rdtwo »

seanmcdirmid wrote: post #409
colechristensen wrote: post #255

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Zoning. You link the "zones which employ people" and "zones which house people" to balance so you don't have significantly more jobs than homes. Next you zone for type of housing, where you only allow a certain percentage of the most profitable 1BR apartments to be built, and require those to be above certain size thresholds so that a variety of life situations can actually live in your city. You don't need to "incen…

If you want to go the Japanese liberal zoning route, simply redefine a one bedroom apartment as a 2.5 tatami sized micro dwelling without central heating and maybe a shared bathroom (or maybe no shower in building at all). Western standards on viable housing are a bit more generous than other countries.

I think that’s intentionally to keep out the poors. Nobody wants those kinds of building in their neighborhood because they house folks of lower social economic class and “bring down the neighborhood”

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Post by rdtwo »

puffoflogic wrote: post #448
colechristensen wrote: post #255

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Zoning. You link the "zones which employ people" and "zones which house people" to balance so you don't have significantly more jobs than homes. Next you zone for type of housing, where you only allow a certain percentage of the most profitable 1BR apartments to be built, and require those to be above certain size thresholds so that a variety of life situations can actually live in your city. You don't need to "incen…

> only allow a certain percentage of the most profitable 1BR apartments to be built Ah yes, the "ban return on investment and ban certain construction" method of promoting construction. Works 100% of the time, every time. See: SF, Seattle, etc.

Market forces will always fill the luxury apartment slot first but honestly what passes for luxury will be mid to low quality in a decade

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Post by ethanbond »

blindmute wrote: post #519
ethanbond wrote: post #514

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Just institute high Land Value Tax and you kill these birds and their tax evasion schemes, with one very simple stone.

Land tax is horrid. A person should be able to live off the land if they choose, self sufficiently. This is impossible when the government demands yearly cash payment just for having your own place to farm.

A person who removes land from the common good should have to do something productive with it, give it back to the common good, or simply pay a fee to the commons for having kept it from productive use. A person absolutely should not be able to keep several blocks of downtown Manhattan off the market so they can run a private farm for themselves.

In practical terms, anywhere a person would want to do such a thing, the land would be cheap enough that LVT wouldn't really matter anyway.

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Post by blindmute »

ethanbond wrote: post #523
blindmute wrote: post #519

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Land tax is horrid. A person should be able to live off the land if they choose, self sufficiently. This is impossible when the government demands yearly cash payment just for having your own place to farm.

A person who removes land from the common good should have to do something productive with it, give it back to the common good, or simply pay a fee to the commons for having kept it from productive use. A person absolutely should not be able to keep several blocks of downtown Manhattan off the market so they can run a private farm for themselves. In practical terms, anywhere a person would want to do such a thing, th…

They do pay a fee to the commons for removing it; it's called sales tax. They are also doing something productive with it, by living on it and using it.

If we are to keep trespassing laws, there must be ways to own land permanently and without further cost. There must be a way for man to survive without participating in government enforced labour. All land is owned by some entity; he can't live in the woods owned by the government or someone else; even after buying land and being entirely self sufficient, he cannot simply live, but must pay the government in their currency which he can only get through participating in the labor economy. There is literally no legal way to live freely by your own means. This is a form of slavery that the ancients would find absolutely intolerable.

Increase the price of land or the sales tax, limit the ownership a single person can have, levy inheritance tax, but an indefinite land tax is inhumane.

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Post by ethanbond »

blindmute wrote: post #524
ethanbond wrote: post #523

Earlier quoted context omitted.

A person who removes land from the common good should have to do something productive with it, give it back to the common good, or simply pay a fee to the commons for having kept it from productive use. A person absolutely should not be able to keep several blocks of downtown Manhattan off the market so they can run a private farm for themselves. In practical terms, anywhere a person would want to do such a thing, th…

They do pay a fee to the commons for removing it; it's called sales tax. They are also doing something productive with it, by living on it and using it. If we are to keep trespassing laws, there must be ways to own land permanently and without further cost. There must be a way for man to survive without participating in government enforced labour. All land is owned by some entity; he can't live in the woods owned by…

Huh... who does enforce trespassing laws? I'm 99% sure that's the state, and for good reason. Are you supposing that the unlanded should pay for the protection of the landed's assets, but that the landed doesn't need to?

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Post by archhn »

pvarangot wrote: post #366
archhn wrote: post #126

These chain restaurants have always freaked me out. I know most of the people working there are at the bottom of the barrel, but their job forces them to feign a cheery demeanor. It's like underclass hell--imo.

I've got friends that work those jobs and they are usually in a cheery demeanor all the time, even when they are angry. I couldn't do it because my default demeanor is like "depressed" but I understand that they get easy money out of it.

Yeah, that doesn't sound healthy. They are cheery when angry? Sounds psychopathic.

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Post by adolph »

dragonwriter wrote: post #502
adolph wrote: post #465

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> funded, e.g., by additional progressive taxes At which point the proposal becomes a welfare system that pointlessly disburses and claws-back cash.

Not really. The fundamental problem of means-tested welfare programs that UBI addresses remain: (1) Eliminates multiple sets of inefficient benefits/eligibility bureaucracy that duplicates functionality already performed as part of taxing authority. (2) Eliminates a counterproductive incentives associated with typical means-tested benefit eligibility, which has clawbacks at low income levels and rapid marginal rate (…

From a US point of view, when was the last time any entrenched bureaucracy was eliminated? As a baby step in redundancy reduction, is it realistic to think that UBI going to get rid of a program like WIC, against the full power of big ag brandishing starving baby pictures?

Your second point acknowledges that taxing away UBI through progressive tax rates is a clawback. As I read it, your idea is that the increased marginal taxation due to the clawback will occur at higher income levels than exist with current programs. Why not just change the existing tax rates instead of sending out cash and taxing it back?

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Post by baobabKoodaa »

darknoon wrote: post #140

I appreciate the quote from corporate: “We are still scratching our head about what this gentleman was thinking.”

This quote from corporate sounds insincere. It's not hard to understand what this "gentleman" was thinking. Disagree with him, sure, but _not understanding_ him? Please.

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Post by mywittyname »

judge2020 wrote: post #458
ben_w wrote: post #279

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From what I’ve seen in and outside America, my gut feeling (I don’t claim expertise) is that zoning can make things worse. The apartment directly under mine is used as an office. Down and to one side is a psychiatrist. Ground floor is a cafe and a pizza takeaway. The apartment opposite me has a grocery store on the ground floor, an office on the second, a dentist on the third, and it looks like the rest of the units…

Zoning only became the downfall of American public transit because constituents are selfish; when 80%+ of a county's residents are homeowners, they're incentivized to fight back against anything that would cause their home values to drop (including public transit due to the noise and apartments which would reduce demand for single family homes), and the local politicians are incentivized to listen lest they be ousted…

> incentivized to fight back against anything that would cause their home values to drop

That they perceive will cause their home values to drop. In reality, they use "home value" as a proxy for "my happiness" and tend to block things they don't like, without really considering the impact on prices.

In very large cities, your SFH is worth a shitload more if someone can put an multi-tenant unit down on it. We still see the odd SFH or diner in NYC, which is now worth bajillions of dollars because the city was allowed to grow to be so dense.

Increasing density is pro home values. Anyone fighting against it is absolutely leaving money on the table. They just don't realize it.

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Post by 113 »

nostrademons wrote: post #208
endisneigh wrote: post #3

I wonder what the USA would look like if minimum wage was defined as; two people being able to afford a 1 bedroom apartment within a 1 hour drive without traffic. The static (both in the nominal and inflation adjusted sense) for minimum wage doesn't make sense imo. Minimum wage should be tied to some level of living (not necessarily a great living, but something ) This guy smh

Inflation, probably followed by corruption. Minimum wage would rise to the point where a person could afford a 1BR apartment within a 1 hour drive without traffic. Then the rents of those 1BR apartments would rise to capture that new minimum wage. Then minimum wage would rise to afford the new rent, and so on. Eventually someone's going to say "Hey, I own an apartment block downtown, I'm supposed to rent it out to th…

Surely if it's the case that rent will always absorb any increase in wealth then that is a housing problem, not a wage problem.
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