I always look it up on Google. I regularly run into this kind of problem when looking at log files which use AM/PM time. Related question: How do you even say "14:00" in English? In school I learned that you say o'clock but I never heard that in real life.
"Fourteen hundred" Fourteen o'clock works too but is less natural.
Ask HN: What does 12:00 AM mean?
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#102That said, UTC is universal also.
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#103I'd be triped up too... to me it makes no sense that it goes 11AM, 12PM, 1PM. That it keeps the number sequence, switches the AM/PM, and then an hour later wraps the number sequence is just odd.
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#104Do Europeans just not have analog clocks or watches anymore?
I also found the "European" remark a bit weird. I'm American so I don't really know, do Europeans generally ignore how AM/PM works? IIRC the Romans created the system, so I'd find it really weird if it had dissapeared from common usage around there. Also, every single picture I've found of a clock tower from Europe seems to follow a 12-hour convention.
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#105Earlier quoted context omitted.
There's a misalignment between the sequential numbers (begin at 1:00; end at 12:59) and AM/PM (begin at 12:00; end at 11:59). A 24-hour clock fixes this, but if we insist on a 12-hour clock we could still align these two spans by renumbering the "12" hours as "0" hours. Then we would see 11:59 AM -> 0:00 PM -> 0:01 PM.
Good luck. Americans will insist that 12 is more intutive because zeros look weird or something. If you tried to standardize on 0-based 12 hour clocks in the US it'd probably result in something weird like Texas seceding or some Christian sect claiming it's anti-Christian and trying to assassinate you.
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#106Re: Ask HN: What does 12:00 AM mean?
#107Earlier quoted context omitted.
I already used 24 hour time and ISO8601 date formats when I lived in Canada (up until 12 years ago). It's like using metric. Just use it.
If you can convince my government and my CEO, I'm game!
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#108Re: Ask HN: What does 12:00 AM mean?
#109A lot of my exams will use the time 11:59pm instead of 12:00am to avoid confusion like this
Re: Ask HN: What does 12:00 AM mean?
#110I always look it up on Google. I regularly run into this kind of problem when looking at log files which use AM/PM time. Related question: How do you even say "14:00" in English? In school I learned that you say o'clock but I never heard that in real life.
Over 12, you generally pronounce it as military time. So you would say "14 hundred hours" I think.
WTF is 'military time'?