Why the iPhone 5 never arrived • Hacker News Board

Re: Why the iPhone 5 never arrived

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Post by chollida1 » Thu, Oct 06, 2011, 1:20 AM UTC

andrew1 wrote: post #114

chollida1 wrote: post #56

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I don't know about the spreading of rumours, but alot of funds short apple on the day of product announcements as their stock almost always goes down during the announcements. It's pretty much free money.

In fairness, that sounds apocryphal. If it were really common then there would be no money in doing it because the market would have factored in days before the event the fact that the price were going to fall.

I'm not offended:)

Call it what you want, but it's been a winner for the past 4 years for us.

Re: Why the iPhone 5 never arrived

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Post by dextorious » Thu, Oct 06, 2011, 10:09 AM UTC

kenjackson wrote: post #113

matwood wrote: post #98

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The biggest feature that people wanted, that they didn't deliver on was a bigger screen Do people really want this? If they can go edge to edge in the current dimensions, that's fine. But, if they have to make the dimensions bigger it doesn't excite me. I want a pocket sized device that I can easily text on with 1 hand. I imagine women who have smaller hands would also prefer the current size phone over some of the g…

Do people really want this? Yes. Does everyone want it? Of course not. The edge to edge screen is what was in the rumor mill. A 4" screen would not change the dimensions of the phone in this case.

Yes, it would only make it uncomfortable to hold and not touch the UI elements.

A bigger screen makes no sense. Apple already made tons of internal studies on the best form factor.

If you want movies, go to an IMAX theater.

Re: Why the iPhone 5 never arrived

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Post by gks » Thu, Oct 06, 2011, 9:41 PM UTC

arn wrote: post #47

gks wrote: post #25

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Yup. MacRumors really did a disservice to everyone with that mock up stuff. I get what the reasoning was, but that doesn't make it any better. Sometimes the rumor sites just flat out get it wrong, and MacRumors I think is responsible for a lot of over-zealous reporting. That said, the stock lost some ground, but the thing with Apple's stock, it always goes up before and after their quarterly earnings calls. They cont…

It's easy to look back and say, oh, those case mockups or cases shouldn't have been reported on since they were wrong. But at the time, the entire case industry was moving forward with producing cases. They weren't just prototypes, you could actually buy the "iPhone 5" cases. It would have been impossible not to report on the cases and what they represent. I believe and have been told that the iPhone 5 design was rea…

Yea yea, keep defending yourself Arn.

You guys have done great work in the past. But you've taken things a bit far this time. You win some you lose some, but you helped set expectations way too high and that resulted in some serious disappointment for a lot of people.

Between your terrible moderators, insanely stupid forum readers, and this, I have no desire to really read your site anymore.

Re: Why the iPhone 5 never arrived

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Post by podperson » Fri, Oct 07, 2011, 3:13 AM UTC

CamperBob wrote: post #108

podperson wrote: post #101

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I agree with all of the above and add that Apple's only plausible competition is from _below_ (e.g. the Kindle Fire) and so if anything they're probably figuring out a plan for what to do if sales start flagging from such competition (e.g. can Apple maintain margins on a $299 iPad2? $399?).

Whether or not you're right, if Apple is worried about competition from "below," as you put it, it will be the very first time since 1978 that they have done so.

You forget Mac clones.

Re: Why the iPhone 5 never arrived

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Post by CamperBob » Fri, Oct 07, 2011, 3:33 AM UTC

podperson wrote: post #124

CamperBob wrote: post #108

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Whether or not you're right, if Apple is worried about competition from "below," as you put it, it will be the very first time since 1978 that they have done so.

You forget Mac clones.

The mistake there was precisely that they didn't see the clones as competition.