A Moscow court has banned Facebook and Instagram as “extremist” organizations

Post by pphysch » Mon, Mar 21, 2022, 11:56 PM UTC

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That is an absurd guilt by association. Hitler does not own all references to a composer that he enjoyed posthumously. By your logic, the Nexus Institute and its guests are neo-Nazis because they had a Wagner-themed round table discussion. https://prometheanartists.com/new-events/2019/11/9/nexus-ins...

No, you're changing my words. I didn't tell that everything Wagner related is always neo-Nazi. I said that they choose the name because it's common to think that Wagner is associated with Nazi Germany. It doesn't matter if latter is true or not because it's only a label to send a message. Same as 14 and 88 are just numbers and are not necessary to mean Nazi, but when you see certain type of people using them you unde…

Post by mrits » Tue, Mar 22, 2022, 3:50 AM UTC

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You certainly fall into the category of good men that do nothing. The rest of us will fight to preserve the freedoms we have and those of others.

Correction, I fall into the category of people who think the US probably should never have helped finance and foment the coup in 2014, picked our guy to lead Ukraine after the coup, and then rewrite the Constitution specifically to put NATO expansion on the menu knowing it would antagonize Russia. https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-26079957 And that's not to absolve Putin, but if I pay a guy to wrestle a wild griz…

Post by akvadrako » Tue, Mar 22, 2022, 9:40 AM UTC

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Are soldiers in the Russian army not Russians? Do you consider members of your country's army to be fellow citizens of your country? Or do you think of them as different?

Let's imagine the issue is about gay people who murder their partners. Reframing it as "against gay people" might be technically true, but factually incorrect.

Post by rendall » Tue, Mar 22, 2022, 10:05 AM UTC

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You could argue that the effects of allowing violent rhetoric against an invading army is tantamount to allowing violent rhetoric against an ethnicity. Then we can have something to discuss. I would disagree, but it's not untrue . What OP said is that violent rhetoric against an ethnicity (Russians) is allowed, which is not true. You are of course aware that russophobia against ethnic Russians was the pretense by whi…

You keep repeating variations of this: > What OP said is that violent rhetoric against an ethnicity (Russians) is allowed, which is not true. No, that's NOT what I said. And you should know this, as I already told you at least once: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=30755880 What I actually said: > Before we all pile on Russia, if you aren't aware of the rule change that FB made to allow violent statements against…

Post by imwillofficial » Tue, Mar 22, 2022, 2:36 PM UTC

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Facebook allowing targeted calls for violence to one side of a conflict only had a lot to do with this decision.

If somebody invades your house and abducts your family you may kill them in most juristrictions I know of. They may not kill you. This is not a disagreement, twist, two parties having their point of view and stuff that we have grown up with, this is an unjustified war of aggression. The only argument we should agree to hear from the Russian side is how they will disprove the accusations of a war of aggression. Hopefu…