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U.S. Senators Introduce SMART Copyright Act to Combat Piracy

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Re: U.S. Senators Introduce SMART Copyright Act to Combat Piracy

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Post by fuckdang1234 »

bitwize wrote: post #10
uo21tp5hoyg wrote: post #5

I don't pirate music, I don't pirate games, I don't pirate software, I don't pirate anything but TV and movies and the reason is simple: piracy is a service problem for me. I know where to get music/games/software, I have no idea where to get the movies and TV I want to watch, they're spread over 20 different services, 90% of which are not available in my country and the ones that are don't have that specific content…

You are not entitled to any movies or television shows at any quality at all because it's not your IP. If someone wants to shoot a movie and then lock it in a vault, never to be seen by anyone, Prince-style, that is their right. If they want to change it to remove and permanently memory-hole offensive elements, that is their right. If they want to release it only in certain formats, up to and including theatrical-onl…

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Post by AnimalMuppet »

perihelions wrote: post #9

Would a government-mandated upload filter pass constitutional scrutiny?

Interesting question. My first instinct was to answer "no", but after thinking a bit more, I'm less sure.

Does a red light camera pass constitutional scrutiny? I think it's kind of the same logic: the law in question is constitutional; the new thing is just automating enforcement.

The upload filter might be a bit different, though, because it's mandated on private servers. Is that enough to swing the question? I really don't know.

Re: U.S. Senators Introduce SMART Copyright Act to Combat Piracy

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Post by QuikAccount »

I think I'm more anti-piracy than the average person and despite bitwize being downvoted to oblivion, they are right. You aren't entitled to anything anyone creates.

However, piracy is also 100% a service problem that has been exacerbated by everyone creating their own streaming services and I'm actually really curious how Amazon, Netflix, and Disney get away with "exclusive content." The US vs Paramount Pictures[1] decided that you can't have exclusive theaters that are owned by production companies yet it is entirely fine if they have streaming exclusives. If anything, this is an indicator that the laws haven't kept up and need to be updated to probably apply to streaming as well.

[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_v._Paramount_Pic....

Re: U.S. Senators Introduce SMART Copyright Act to Combat Piracy

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Post by sschueller »

dessant wrote: post #23
sschueller wrote: post #7

What sucks is how the US will pressure the rest of the world to also implement this garbage. https://www.swissinfo.ch/eng/downloading-and-uploading_what-... I am going to cancel my Netflix and start pirating because am not going to pay more than Germans for netflix and get an even smaller catalog than they get. Germany already pays more than the US for a much smaller catalog. We just get take to the cleaner just beca…

But who will even need Better Call Saul when you'll be able to watch local exclusives, like Swiss Prince.

I can watch Tschugger for free on playsuisse paid for by my tax dollars.

https://m.imdb.com/title/tt15425948/

Re: U.S. Senators Introduce SMART Copyright Act to Combat Piracy

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Post by uncomputation »

Fascinating how greed and the demand for ever increasing profits leads to these cycles of purchase and privacy. First we had physical DVDs but studios’ greed in extending the theater playtime as long as profitable resulted in bootleg recordings so people could watch at home. Then torrenting was the final nail to this physical media strategy. Netflix arose, consolidating content into an even easier experience than torrenting with none of the legal/ISP risks. Then Disney and Warner Bros and NBC caught on, got greedy, and now we’re back to torrenting seemingly because people don’t want to deal with country licensing, platform lock in, fragmentation, or price increases.

Anyone wanting a glimpse at this bill’s future can look at YouTube’s draconian copyright strike engine which ensures artists will live in fear of daring to use a 5 second sample of Major Music Label Intellectual Property.

Attempts to legislate this (rather than curbing corporate greed) will only create a new hydra, one providing ML-resistant protections for media against perceptual hashes, greater anonymity, and the fertile grounds for stronger piracy.

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Post by meeriee »

542458 wrote: post #6
Arubis wrote: post #4

Setting aside the arguments around infringement equaling/not equaling actual theft, is the actual incidence of piracy high enough that it's on beancounters' radar? I may be wrong, but my impression is that streaming made it a non-issue. This feels like a smokescreen.

I can't speak to media piracy, but I previously did work with a large supplier of professional software. This is not stuff people often use for fun, and the software had free and easy-to-get student versions available. The software still saw 80+% piracy in many markets according to internal metrics. This is a big part of why companies are so enthusiastic about cloud everything - recurring revenue is nice, but unpirat…

Does making pirating some software impossible actually increase its sales revenue? I'd wager that most people who pirate software wouldn't want to, are even have the means to pay for the full price of the software.

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Post by [deleted] »

bitwize wrote: post #10
uo21tp5hoyg wrote: post #5

I don't pirate music, I don't pirate games, I don't pirate software, I don't pirate anything but TV and movies and the reason is simple: piracy is a service problem for me. I know where to get music/games/software, I have no idea where to get the movies and TV I want to watch, they're spread over 20 different services, 90% of which are not available in my country and the ones that are don't have that specific content…

You are not entitled to any movies or television shows at any quality at all because it's not your IP. If someone wants to shoot a movie and then lock it in a vault, never to be seen by anyone, Prince-style, that is their right. If they want to change it to remove and permanently memory-hole offensive elements, that is their right. If they want to release it only in certain formats, up to and including theatrical-onl…

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Post by andmarios »

bitwize wrote: post #10
uo21tp5hoyg wrote: post #5

I don't pirate music, I don't pirate games, I don't pirate software, I don't pirate anything but TV and movies and the reason is simple: piracy is a service problem for me. I know where to get music/games/software, I have no idea where to get the movies and TV I want to watch, they're spread over 20 different services, 90% of which are not available in my country and the ones that are don't have that specific content…

You are not entitled to any movies or television shows at any quality at all because it's not your IP. If someone wants to shoot a movie and then lock it in a vault, never to be seen by anyone, Prince-style, that is their right. If they want to change it to remove and permanently memory-hole offensive elements, that is their right. If they want to release it only in certain formats, up to and including theatrical-onl…

I disagree with your statement, because IP is a human construct that was created in order to help creators profit from their works so they can create more, and of higher quality works.

It is a very expensive construct, both in public resources (e.g to create, protect, and enforce the law), and towards humanity's progress (i.e free access to books, inventions, etc would benefit the planet).

So for creators to get the benefits of the letter of the IP law, they should respect the spirit of the law, which is to give gated access to everyone.

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Post by croes »

bitwize wrote: post #10
uo21tp5hoyg wrote: post #5

I don't pirate music, I don't pirate games, I don't pirate software, I don't pirate anything but TV and movies and the reason is simple: piracy is a service problem for me. I know where to get music/games/software, I have no idea where to get the movies and TV I want to watch, they're spread over 20 different services, 90% of which are not available in my country and the ones that are don't have that specific content…

You are not entitled to any movies or television shows at any quality at all because it's not your IP. If someone wants to shoot a movie and then lock it in a vault, never to be seen by anyone, Prince-style, that is their right. If they want to change it to remove and permanently memory-hole offensive elements, that is their right. If they want to release it only in certain formats, up to and including theatrical-onl…

Sorry, it's hard for me to feel sorry for an industry that moved to California to avoid patent claims.

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Post by colinmhayes »

bitwize wrote: post #10
uo21tp5hoyg wrote: post #5

I don't pirate music, I don't pirate games, I don't pirate software, I don't pirate anything but TV and movies and the reason is simple: piracy is a service problem for me. I know where to get music/games/software, I have no idea where to get the movies and TV I want to watch, they're spread over 20 different services, 90% of which are not available in my country and the ones that are don't have that specific content…

You are not entitled to any movies or television shows at any quality at all because it's not your IP. If someone wants to shoot a movie and then lock it in a vault, never to be seen by anyone, Prince-style, that is their right. If they want to change it to remove and permanently memory-hole offensive elements, that is their right. If they want to release it only in certain formats, up to and including theatrical-onl…

I'm entitled to whatever I can get my hands on.
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