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Re: No is a complete sentence

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That’s not grammatically correct in my opinion. I’d say “je n’aime autant pas” ou “je ne préférerais pas” but it doesn’t sound exactly like it should.

“je n’aime autant pas” sounds weird. “je ne préférerais pas” is correct but I agree it does not have the same feeling as "I'd prefer not to". I suspect "I'd prefer not to" is somewhat difficult to translate in French. This is probably because in English, "not to" without repeating the verb / action feels natural but in French it would feel like something is missing. You could try "Je préfèrerais ne pas faire ça" but…

"Je préfererais pas" is valid (and matches the contraction of "I'd prefer not to"), although a bit less formal. Almost equivalent to "Je préfererais ne pas (le faire)" is valid too in everyday speak.

And slightly different from "Je ne préfererais pas".

Re: No is a complete sentence

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> If someone who's part of that business asks you something, you don't get to just say no unless you're the CEO. Of course you get to say no. You are not paid to "serve the business" as if business owned you. You are paid for specific role, specific amount of time, specific achievements. And that pretty often includes saying no to other people in same organization.

This is a typical big company attitude that can make work miserable. It helps a lot if everybody tries to keep track of the overall situation and tries to improve it. That doesn't mean that you're a slave, it just means that you do good work. Obviously don't burn yourself out trying to improve something that the organization resists to improve (unless that is your role). Edit: Parent is talking more about requests of…

This is super valid in small company too. Being unable to say effective no will make your life hell in small companies too ... even faster then in large one.

The "you dont get to say no, because you are hired to serve the company" implies horrible workplace no matter what size of the company.

Re: No is a complete sentence

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No is a valid conclusion an therefore a valid answer and a complete sentence. Not the only one, though. You have to find out the appropriate setting. It cuts nicely through bullshit, for example.

Re: No is a complete sentence

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Not entirely. The explanation is very very often taken as start of negotiation and an invitation to pressure/question you. Saying that as someone who was taught to explain everything as kid and found out in real life that I have to unlearn that. Say no, maybe bonus "cant" but don't say reasons unless you really have to.

This sounds like the people you work with have boundary issues, this may warrant being addressed first.

Right now, no, they are actually fine. I know you dont know them, but I feel the need to defend them.

The above is a more of lifelong lesson that seems to serve mi well (still).

Re: No is a complete sentence

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post #68

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[1] counter-counter-example: "which one is your favourite unix command?" "no, yes".

Indeed an example which needs more explanation. I don't get what you mean https://linux.die.net/man/1/no

PSA: don't use linux.die.net. It's horribly outdated.

Re: No is a complete sentence

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From an organizational perspective, this is horrible advice: > Let me tell you clearly. “No” is a complete sentence. It requires no explanation or defense. The "It requires no explanation or defense" part is just plain wrong . If someone asks you to do something in an organization, it's fine to say "No", but an explanation is nearly always expected. And this explanation is critical, because often time the answer is s…

Yeah, terrible advice.

Saying "no" to other people's requests will put you in a position where you will be told "no" to any of your own.

Unless you're indispensable and never had to ask others for anything this is just career suicide.

Re: No is a complete sentence

#77

You should feel empowered to say no. Just don’t be a dick about it. By, for instance, only saying “no”.

What if you're replying to dick request? Surely just "no" would be appropriate. It's extremely contextual

That's not the context of the article.

Re: No is a complete sentence

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Well "No." might be a complete sentence and enough to express unwillingness to proceed with the demand. But to my mind, as others already noticed here, it is not the most productive way to deal with refusal, especially if quality of relationship is taken in consideration.

There are already plenty of great resources to answer negatively to the demand without damaging the relationship or the image that will be forged out of the way you behave, so just go and search for "how to say no"[1]

[1] https://duckduckgo.com/?t=ffab&q=how+to+say+no&ia=web for the lazy, and here are the first result as I searched it: - https://www.indeed.com/career-advice/career-development/how-... - https://www.wikihow.com/Say-No - https://www.scienceofpeople.com/how-to-say-no/ - https://www.grammarly.com/blog/saying-no/

From my readings on this topic, the main take away things I liked were formulations that - use positive assertive sentences: focus on what this refusal allow you to do, propose alternatives - make it clear why you will focus on something else: it can also gives clues on whether it’s likely a permanent case or a local agenda/load conflict - use the right level of kind firmness

Here is an example to illustrate what I mean: "Thanks for your invitation at this restaurant, saying 'yes' would have delighted me, unfortunately I already have an other dinner planned at this date. Also I adopted a vegan regime, so what about going to Vegood the next Friday?"

First, be kind, the person asking you is making some kind of recognition of your existence and possibly bet on your skill set. Secondly, making a word like "yes" appears in the sentence make the refusal psychologically easier to perceive as some positive response. Then there is first an exposition of a some incidental impossibility: a typical conflict of agenda. But there is also this more perennial constraints about what you can it (whether you chose the regime for ethical reasons or health imperative necessities). Finally you propose an alternative.

Of course the alternative could also be some delegation on someone else than your future self: "My skill level on this technology would prevent me from achieving the task in due time. I think Ada would be way more qualified than me for this mission, or if she’s too busy, maybe ask Zeno: if he can’t help you directly, he is well connected with all experts in this domain."

Re: No is a complete sentence

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post #68

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[1] counter-counter-example: "which one is your favourite unix command?" "no, yes".

Indeed an example which needs more explanation. I don't get what you mean https://linux.die.net/man/1/no

Yes. Not no. Yes.
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