They killed it themselves when they tried to profit off of what is basically piracy with some NFT bullshit. That was utterly moronic.
Vanced Discontinuation
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Re: Vanced Discontinuation
#132They killed it themselves when they tried to profit off of what is basically piracy with some NFT bullshit. That was utterly moronic.
You should read the article, it says they didn't even sell the NFT and wasn't part of the C&D.
Re: Vanced Discontinuation
#133Earlier quoted context omitted.
Someone else could make a better version of it. But if I had to guess, they are using some internal tools or hacks to make it work the way it does.
Top-secret internal tools like jadx, apktool, the Android SDK, and a text editor? This is all I used to build my patched version of Instagram.
I wanted to try to mod Snapchat but I don't seem to get it to work. Anyone any experience?
Re: Vanced Discontinuation
#134Not an attorney, but I suspect two mistakes the YouTube Vanced team did with the project is having "YouTube" in the name (Could be considered as a false association and trademark violation by Google or YouTube), and redistributing complete APKs that were modified YouTube APKs that would be under copyright. I have not looked into the inner works of this, but on device patching of APK DEX classes from a set of patches…
Wouldn't patches still be considered derivative work?
Re: Vanced Discontinuation
#135It sounds like they're making it really clear that they've "killed" the project, probably so they can just start another one that doesn't have the same issues. I wouldn't be surprised if they just form a new LLC, and transfer the old code as IP between the two, tweaking the offending assets and calling it a day.
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#136Earlier quoted context omitted.
No, that's wrong - for most channels (according to creators) it generates much more revenue pre view than ads supported views. It's just a relatively small part of overall pie because most viewers don't pay for it.
I was talking about overall revenue for the creator not revenue per user.
Then you've been talking about a wrong and meaningless metric.
Re: Vanced Discontinuation
#137> Vanced is discontinued for "legal reasons" as vanced was infringing the logo and branding of the original YouTube app as the logo resembles the original logo in a similar way and was used without taking prior permission from Google for using the branding. Huh?!? That was the only reason behind the C&D letter and they killed the product when a simple logo redesign could have solved the issue? Or the C&D letter would…
I'm the developer of Cydia, an alternative to the App Store for jailbroken iOS devices, a software ecosystem which was filled with both modifications to existing clients and complete re-implementations of clients, and this is definitely the #1 mistake that new developers would make (much to my annoyance, as it just seems so OBVIOUS of a thing to not do, but people really are idiots): you need to be extremely careful…
> And yet, somehow, you see it happen time and time again as people just can't help themselves when it comes to using other peoples' trademarks for their clients.
This is exactly what happened with "Reddit is fun" which had to rebrand as "RiF" but quickly changed again to "RiF is fun for Reddit" which is a rather clunky name but seems to meet the criteria of having enough standoff to the original
Re: Vanced Discontinuation
#138Earlier quoted context omitted.
I'm the developer of Cydia, an alternative to the App Store for jailbroken iOS devices, a software ecosystem which was filled with both modifications to existing clients and complete re-implementations of clients, and this is definitely the #1 mistake that new developers would make (much to my annoyance, as it just seems so OBVIOUS of a thing to not do, but people really are idiots): you need to be extremely careful…
A little off-topic, but it's really cool to see that you're still floating around here. One of my first "hacker" moments was Jailbreaking a used first-gen iPod I bought off Craigslist in 5th grade. I remember seeing your name on a number of things, and people always mentioned you on forums/IRC when I had questions. Never got around to saying hello, but I suppose it's better late than never to say 'thank you' for expa…
I had the exact same experience, although I was older (9th/10th grade). I'd go so far as to say I might not be a programmer if it wasn't for my experience of tweaking the hell out of my jailbroken iPod touch.
Re: Vanced Discontinuation
#139Not an attorney, but I suspect two mistakes the YouTube Vanced team did with the project is having "YouTube" in the name (Could be considered as a false association and trademark violation by Google or YouTube), and redistributing complete APKs that were modified YouTube APKs that would be under copyright. I have not looked into the inner works of this, but on device patching of APK DEX classes from a set of patches…
Yeah binary patching would basically solve this issue and wouldn't be any more of a hassle for the user than vanced already was. For a similar example, see the way most alternative Minecraft servers download and patch official binaries on first start (they started doing this due to getting a bunch of DMCA takedowns a few years ago).
With a bit of effort, Vanced could even have the download page perform the patching and signing in JS/wasm, then include the privkey in the app so it could download, patch and sign new copies of itself on the fly.
Or, for better security, have a web service that signs any APK that matches a set of hashes. Clients patch the APK locally, then send it in to get signed - everyone now has byte-identical APKs, but Vanced severs never technically distributed Google's binaries.
Re: Vanced Discontinuation
#140Earlier quoted context omitted.
I'm the developer of Cydia, an alternative to the App Store for jailbroken iOS devices, a software ecosystem which was filled with both modifications to existing clients and complete re-implementations of clients, and this is definitely the #1 mistake that new developers would make (much to my annoyance, as it just seems so OBVIOUS of a thing to not do, but people really are idiots): you need to be extremely careful…
> And yet, somehow, you see it happen time and time again as people just can't help themselves when it comes to using other peoples' trademarks for their clients. This is exactly what happened with "Reddit is fun" which had to rebrand as "RiF" but quickly changed again to "RiF is fun for Reddit" which is a rather clunky name but seems to meet the criteria of having enough standoff to the original
Same with RedditSync -> Sync for Reddit