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Vimeo: “We are a B2B solution, not the indie version of YouTube.”

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Re: Vimeo: “We are a B2B solution, not the indie version of YouTube.”

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Vimeo is dying. There is no way they can stay afloat abusing their tiny and shrinking user base with an increasingly exorbitant pricing.

IBM disagrees.

"Nobody ever got fired for choosing Vimeo" isn't a thing.

Re: Vimeo: “We are a B2B solution, not the indie version of YouTube.”

#194

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It's not even a sensible or pro-rated increase. Just a shakedown.

Tell that to Sunny Singh, the other Vimeo user who was featured in the Verge article, who did the math himself and had to admit that he was costing Vimeo $2500/yr.

Are you talking about this? https://twitter.com/hate5six/status/1481511608979533826

If so, he is not saying that he is costing Vimeo $2500/year, he is saying what amount of bandwidth he has "consumed"/"produced" from Vimeo, which for sure doesn't cost Vimeo $2500/year, as otherwise they would be bankrupt by now. They pay static sums for the internet connection, no TB/$ crap that people using cloud are used to.

Re: Vimeo: “We are a B2B solution, not the indie version of YouTube.”

#195
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Vimeo Alternatives : Centralized : Youtube, Dailymotion, Bitchute, Rumble, DTube, Vidlii, DLive, Triller Decentralized : Odysee(LBRY), Peertube

These really feel more like YouTube alternatives. Are there any alternatives to Vimeo as a B2B service (e.g. hosting unlisted videos embedded behind paywalls)?

Re: Vimeo: “We are a B2B solution, not the indie version of YouTube.”

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post #134

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> "I was already paying $200 a year, which I think is pretty expensive," In other words, she has no idea what bandwidth or server costs are and doesn't realize Vimeo is definitely losing money on distributing her videos, but still arrogantly believes she is entitled to infinite bandwidth for free because "that's what YouTube does."

But should it be her job as a content producer to understand Vimeo's costs and margins? Vimeo is one of those who liked to advertise seemingly unmetered bandwidth behind an fine-print fair-use policy, luring people into a cheap pro plan with the hopes that most of them won't take off and become viral. That was their bet, one that they're now regretting. They could've just easily put a bandwidth meter on every account…

> But should it be her job as a content producer to understand Vimeo's costs and margins

Not exactly. They should inform her of those through the price signals they send. Which appears to be exactly what she is complaining about.

Re: Vimeo: “We are a B2B solution, not the indie version of YouTube.”

#197
post #134

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> "I was already paying $200 a year, which I think is pretty expensive," In other words, she has no idea what bandwidth or server costs are and doesn't realize Vimeo is definitely losing money on distributing her videos, but still arrogantly believes she is entitled to infinite bandwidth for free because "that's what YouTube does."

Seems you are the one who doesn't have any idea about how much "bandwidth" really costs, which is $0. When peering happens, do you think they put quota on how much bandwidth you can send through? No, you have a throughput limit but then after that its unmetered. No way Vimeo is paying per TB served if they hope to one day make profits (unless they already do so). You can easily setup your own personal video hosting s…

You’re generally correct although it’s slightly more nuanced. There are places in the world where peering isn’t free (eg Australia) and even mandated by law not to be (Eg SK).

Re: Vimeo: “We are a B2B solution, not the indie version of YouTube.”

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Meh, I could host it in my data center for under $100/mo. Transit is like $0.1/mbps/month.

Cloudflare (and, obviuosly, vimeo) allows for good scalability and provides plenty of services underneath. You would need to code a lot of stuff to provide scalability (like imagine that your video became virus and thousands of people want to watch it at the same time, that's hundreds of gigabits of traffic). You would need to recode it for different devices. You would need to recode it for different network speeds.…

I’ve implemented literally all of those things besides >100gbps which is a totally different discussion. I also had the additional constraint of realtime GPU encoding and low latency live streaming. Without that, the 1 year project would have been a weekend project.

And yeah a single server with 1G transit can easily solve the problem that this thread is about.

Re: Vimeo: “We are a B2B solution, not the indie version of YouTube.”

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post #184

Earlier quoted context omitted.

But should it be her job as a content producer to understand Vimeo's costs and margins? Vimeo is one of those who liked to advertise seemingly unmetered bandwidth behind an fine-print fair-use policy, luring people into a cheap pro plan with the hopes that most of them won't take off and become viral. That was their bet, one that they're now regretting. They could've just easily put a bandwidth meter on every account…

>It's not even like the early days of Gmail abuse where people were using it as a cheap web disk, consuming way more storage and bandwidth than Gmail could've reasonably estimated Was this actually a thing? AFAIK even at the start they had hard limits. The only thing "unlimited" about it was that they promised to steadily increase the storage cap.

Right. They announced with a 1GB limit. At the time, this felt unlimited. The competition was offering around 5-10MB.

Re: Vimeo: “We are a B2B solution, not the indie version of YouTube.”

#200
post #134

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> "I was already paying $200 a year, which I think is pretty expensive," In other words, she has no idea what bandwidth or server costs are and doesn't realize Vimeo is definitely losing money on distributing her videos, but still arrogantly believes she is entitled to infinite bandwidth for free because "that's what YouTube does."

Seems you are the one who doesn't have any idea about how much "bandwidth" really costs, which is $0. When peering happens, do you think they put quota on how much bandwidth you can send through? No, you have a throughput limit but then after that its unmetered. No way Vimeo is paying per TB served if they hope to one day make profits (unless they already do so). You can easily setup your own personal video hosting s…

Where can you get a gigabit host that serves many TB a month for $100?

Not being sarcastic, genuinely interested in such a service.

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