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Vimeo: “We are a B2B solution, not the indie version of YouTube.”

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Re: Vimeo: “We are a B2B solution, not the indie version of YouTube.”

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post #65

Considering the practices of Youtube, Vimeo, and the like, I don't understand why bittorrent feeds aren't used more often.

Can you tap a link to a torrent and watch the video it contains on your phone? If the answer is “no” then I think this is the answer to your question.

With webtorrent JS, yes.

Re: Vimeo: “We are a B2B solution, not the indie version of YouTube.”

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She makes around $25k a month from her videos, so paying $3.1k for hosting doesn't seem like an unusual cost. However, it's obvious that she derives no benefit from being able to control her own branding or whatever value-add that vimeo provides over youtube so putting it on an ad-supported platform like youtube probably just makes more sense for her.

$3500 for hosting on top of what they already paid for hosting for the current length of their plan, with 7 days notice to vacate otherwise. And then how much next week? The week after that? How could anyone trust Vimeo as a provider for their business after this?

To add, this is why people serious about their business generally will enter into contracts with other businesses to ensure either side can't screw each other over. And it provides a clear transition plan if one party wants to leave.

Re: Vimeo: “We are a B2B solution, not the indie version of YouTube.”

#144

Earlier quoted context omitted.

She makes around $25k a month from her videos, so paying $3.1k for hosting doesn't seem like an unusual cost. However, it's obvious that she derives no benefit from being able to control her own branding or whatever value-add that vimeo provides over youtube so putting it on an ad-supported platform like youtube probably just makes more sense for her.

$3500 for hosting on top of what they already paid for hosting for the current length of their plan, with 7 days notice to vacate otherwise. And then how much next week? The week after that? How could anyone trust Vimeo as a provider for their business after this?

That 3500 is for a whole year. The per month cost is $300. That's 1.5% of the income that she gets from the videos.

Re: Vimeo: “We are a B2B solution, not the indie version of YouTube.”

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post #138

Earlier quoted context omitted.

She makes around $25k a month from her videos, so paying $3.1k for hosting doesn't seem like an unusual cost. However, it's obvious that she derives no benefit from being able to control her own branding or whatever value-add that vimeo provides over youtube so putting it on an ad-supported platform like youtube probably just makes more sense for her.

Where did you find the $25k/mo figure? TFA says that her most popular video has less than a thousand views.

From her patreon. She has 5600 patrons and her only subscription option is $5/mo.

Her videos have only 4-digit views, but they are all multiple hours long Vimeo is asking for around $7/hour of video/year.

Re: Vimeo: “We are a B2B solution, not the indie version of YouTube.”

#146
post #116

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Apple’s App Store charges much more than that for a service that includes only very basic hosting of an application package.

That is also egregious, but Apple and Google are getting away with it because they have a duopoly over mobile phone app stores. Not so with video hosting.

Isn't it so though? What viable alternatives exist?

Re: Vimeo: “We are a B2B solution, not the indie version of YouTube.”

#147
post #37
post #30

FYI Update from Vimeo CEO posted Friday https://vimeo.com/blog/post/improving-policy-on-video-bandwi... (disclaimer I am a Vimeo employee)

Am I the only one that thinks 2TB is pretty low for a plan that costs $75/month?

It is low for just bandwidth, but I imagine the assumption is that it also represents the relative scale/cost for transcoding, storage, etc, as well. It still isn't cheap compared to diy, but that's what you're paying for, I guess.

Re: Vimeo: “We are a B2B solution, not the indie version of YouTube.”

#148
post #8

> She’s uploaded 117 subscriber-only videos so far, and each one only gets around 150 views on average. Her most viewed video has around 815 views. … Her bandwidth usage was within the top 1 percent of Vimeo users, the company said Well that’s telling. Sounds like a company that’s on the rocks trying to squeeze money out of a small number of users to survive.

"top 1%" with these figures tells you more about the problems Vimeo have than anything else, surely. Even if they are all very long videos.

It sounds almost like they've abandoned any attempt to find cost-savings through scale and they are heading towards being dependent on the services of an off-the-shelf developer-focussed competitor.

Re: Vimeo: “We are a B2B solution, not the indie version of YouTube.”

#149
post #20

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I think it’s a shakedown of those users. They probably think they can get a big cash infusion while those people migrate out. If you had a business hosting training videos then 1 week isn’t enough time to migrate you might end up eating a month or 2 at extortion pricing

This doesn't sound like a good long term strategy, you're losing a lot of goodwill from your small paying customers and they'll jump ship when the opportunity arises.

It’s a good short term play. If you extract 3k instead of 70/month you basically get paid for 3 years in one month. Clients are lost but good will isn’t that valuable when you have given up on growing and moved to extraction

Re: Vimeo: “We are a B2B solution, not the indie version of YouTube.”

#150
post #29

This sounds like a potentially great business clarity move: > We are a B2B solution, not the indie version of YouTube” But this part -- bait&switch, with only one week to decide or move, (if that's accurate) -- is not what you want from your B2B solution provider: > “I was already paying $200 a year, which I think is pretty expensive,” [...] if she wanted to keep hosting her content on the site, she’d need to upgrade…

It's not even a sensible or pro-rated increase. Just a shakedown.

Tell that to Sunny Singh, the other Vimeo user who was featured in the Verge article, who did the math himself and had to admit that he was costing Vimeo $2500/yr.
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